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post #5476 of 12760
I'm not necessarily big on tequila, but I've had some of the really good stuff and thought it was excellent and very interesting. Worlds away from Sauza or Jose Cuervo.
post #5477 of 12760
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Yeah, you're conflating the shit kids drink in clubs with good tequila.

Yeah, I agree, good tequila is quite tasty. It's about the only clear spirit I straight up like, though I do tend to prefer the aged versions.
post #5478 of 12760
Silver tequila is a wonderful substitute for gin in the negroni's cousin, the agavoni. The vegetal nature of tequila plays well with the bitter orange of Campari.
post #5479 of 12760
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Silver tequila is a wonderful substitute for gin in the negroni's cousin, the agavoni. The vegetal nature of tequila plays well with the bitter orange of Campari.

I would believe that. I'd love to try one.
post #5480 of 12760
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The solution is to get an aged rum that has been filtered to remove coloring. Banks 5 Island, a combination of five aged rums, is quite good in this respect.

I fail to see the point of this. White/Silver rums are called for when the desire is to not have the aged flavors, not to avoid the coloring. I love my mount gay, but I would rather have a mojito made with bacardi than mount gay eclipse (and certainly wouldn't use something like the mount gay extra old). Something crisp like that isn't meant to have the flavors of barrel aging.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Im talking any beer that comes with a lime, tequila people have their processes with salt and lemon to make it tolerable. Bullshit.

So don't drink silver tequila (and things like Sauza/Cuevro Gold are just silver tequilas with gold color added...they aren't aged). Just like rum, the white stuff is for mixing. The whole salt and lime thing is stupid.
There are some mighty fine reposado and anejo tequilas out there. Aging the agave makes a very smooth drink. Skip the patron (quality went down and prices went up when they decided to try and be a club bottle de jour ) and go for something like a Corrido anejo (or even the Corralejo in the tall red bottle).
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I do not get when it became "ok" to not remove the tags on clothes, wear them out, then return them. I particularly do not get how this has become a source of pride for some people, particularly young women.
A local SA at a major store here told me that they get the most returns the day after an annual event held here ends.
post #5482 of 12760
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Im talking any beer that comes with a lime, tequila people have their processes with salt and lemon to make it tolerable. Bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Yeah, you're conflating the shit kids drink in clubs with good tequila.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Possibly.

Most Americans think Cuervo or Cap'n Morgans is "the good stuff", and thus think all rum and tequila is horrible swill only suitable for shots. There are lots of better options, for less money even. People are just suckers for branding.
post #5483 of 12760
I am not optimistic about even the "good" tequila out there. There is this mexican joint by me where all they have is tequila to drink. I have always scowled at their drink menu and they have attempted to make me cocktails with the "good" stuff and even that stuff while it goes down easier has that quality that makes it tequila that I just simply don't like. Granted, I never tried drinking it straight. I don't know if that perhaps is different.
post #5484 of 12760
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Most Americans think Cuervo or Cap'n Morgans is "the good stuff", and thus think all rum and tequila is horrible swill only suitable for shots. There are lots of better options, for less money even. People are just suckers for branding.

I think the perception on this has changed considerably. There is a very sizable market for higher end tequilas. Just look at how many more brands are nationally available with a price tag over $30. Allied Domecq did a lot for expanding the market in the 90's. Patron has really kicked the lid off of the high end tequila market. Even if you think the product is over priced they did a lot for expanding consumers' palates.
post #5485 of 12760
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I am not optimistic about even the "good" tequila out there. There is this mexican joint by me where all they have is tequila to drink. I have always scowled at their drink menu and they have attempted to make me cocktails with the "good" stuff and even that stuff while it goes down easier has that quality that makes it tequila that I just simply don't like. Granted, I never tried drinking it straight. I don't know if that perhaps is different.
Tequila is certainly something I can understand not liking, if you don't like the vegetal notes it's just not going to work for you. It is certainly different. A margarita and a daiquiri (real ones) have the same ingredients other than the base spirit, but rum vs tequila makes for a huge change in the flavor profile.
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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

I think the perception on this has changed considerably. There is a very sizable market for higher end tequilas. Just look at how many more brands are nationally available with a price tag over $30. Allied Domecq did a lot for expanding the market in the 90's. Patron has really kicked the lid off of the high end tequila market. Even if you think the product is over priced they did a lot for expanding consumers' palates.

Yeah, but that's still a fairly small exposure overall. I certainly don't know percentages, but most people try garbage when they're young, decide they don't like it, then never try anything better. Or they keep shots forever (lime/salt too) even for good stuff. Can't imagine much of a fraction actually sips or drinks carefully made cocktails. (death to sour mix)

Likewise: Craft beers have exploded recently, but the vast majority of the population still drinks stuff like Bud Lite.



Related: I want to smack anybody that orders a "Grey Goose screwdriver." You're mixing it with like 8 oz of shitty orange juice, you don't need premium vodka you dolt.
post #5486 of 12760
I think your opinion is reflective of your age. You are really cherry picking to make a point. I would imagine that for 99% of all people that drink for the first time it is shit. So by your logic why would anyone convert to a drinker of anything premium.

Yes, the majority of alcohol consumed is because of price point and not quality. That doesn't take away the market for premium products. There is still a very large market. Patron sold 2.4 million cases last year. That's between 100-150 million in revenue. That is one tequila brand.

I found this: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/02/us-tequila-usa-idUSTRE7711RL20110802

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U.S. sales of tequila bottles within the $20 wholesale price range have gone up by 129 percent since 2003, according to figures compiled by DISCUS, the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. Meanwhile, sales of bottles priced at $22 and up, known in the industry as the super premium category, increased by 317 percent.
post #5487 of 12760
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Related: I want to smack anybody that orders a "Grey Goose screwdriver." You're mixing it with like 8 oz of shitty orange juice, you don't need premium vodka you dolt.

+1 to that. Actually drives me nuts when people do it with really nice tequila too--your margarita is just fine with blanco, folks.
post #5488 of 12760
I find Milagro, across their spectrum, to be good stuff and a good QPR. El Jimador, now that their agave fields are back, is also a good bang for the buck. If you can find the stuff on the left here, great deal for about $27

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post #5489 of 12760
i like Milagro too. Very solid product and well priced.
post #5490 of 12760
Will have to give that a try come summer. Thanks!
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