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post #5461 of 12452
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

I have one that I like: bison grass vodka. Something the poles have been making for 500 years or so, where the vodka is flavored with a special type of grass. And unlike the stuff generally put in the category of "flavored vodka" it's not sweetened.

But yeah, I absolutely agree with you on the general point. I don't bother with vodka or white rum because there really isn't any point to it. I like flavor, so why would I care about any white spirit that's not gin?

Dude, I don't know what kind of white rum you've had, but decent white rum doesn't taste like vodka. It tastes like...rum.

Also missing out on stuff like pisco, cachaca, etc. There's a lot of "white" spirits out there that actually taste like something and make a great drink. You don't always need the aged taste, and it's not always beneficial. This is mostly for cocktails, mind, but even straight I like having an interesting lightly aged cane-rum or tequila sometimes, instead of everything being aged in wood.
post #5462 of 12452
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Dude, I don't know what kind of white rum you've had, but decent white rum doesn't taste like vodka. It tastes like...rum.

It tastes like boring rum, and a nice lightly aged rum tastes even more like rum. I like a good rum, dark rum is a vastly underrated spirit for sipping, and a well made spiced rum is about the only basic spirit where I'm okay with it being sweetened. But white rum is just uninteresting to me, any drink that calls for it gets aged rum instead, and is better for it.
post #5463 of 12452
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Because it's tequila?

I'm iffy on tequila, and while I keep a bottle around for the occasional margarita, it's always aged somewhat. Right now, Camarena Reposado.
post #5464 of 12452
I'm iffy on all you people turning your noses up at good booze.
post #5465 of 12452
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I'm iffy on all you people turning your noses up at good booze.

Tequilla just has a flavor I only like in certain contexts. The other biases I have are just in favor of seeking more flavor rather than less.
post #5466 of 12452
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

Tequilla just has a flavor I only like in certain contexts. The other biases I have are just in favor of seeking more flavor rather than less.

Contrary to popular American ethos more is not always better.

IMO, there's a place for most everything. It's all about context, timing, mood, and what you're mixing with.
post #5467 of 12452
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Contrary to popular American ethos more is not always better.

IMO, there's a place for most everything. It's all about context, timing, mood, and what you're mixing with.

This. A thousand times this.
post #5468 of 12452
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

It tastes like boring rum, and a nice lightly aged rum tastes even more like rum. I like a good rum, dark rum is a vastly underrated spirit for sipping, and a well made spiced rum is about the only basic spirit where I'm okay with it being sweetened. But white rum is just uninteresting to me, any drink that calls for it gets aged rum instead, and is better for it.

Different, certainly, but better? Like Piob said, that's just a limiting philosophy. I certainly go for aged expressions more often than not, but sometimes a more lightly aged spirit gives you access to tastes that are lost or spoiled by the wood. That's especially true in summer sour cocktails, a margarita or daiquiri with a lightly aged quality spirit is tremendous on a hot day. Maybe I want to add some maraschino and actually be able to taste it, I'm not going to throw down the anejo tequila for that. I can't imagine a caipirhina with aged rum, it would be a totally different drink. Etc.
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The other biases I have are just in favor of seeking more flavor rather than less.

I understand the impulse there, but I think it's limiting. Lightly aged spirits aren't just "weaker" versions of the true, aged, version. They're the spirit without the wood, it's just a different thing. A lightly aged rum might have notes of grass, vegetation, freshness that the aged spirit won't. Those flavors are gone in the aged version, replaced with the wood notes.



And I say all this as someone who has a barrel aging up some Manhattans downstairs (as does Piob). Obviously not going to change your taste, but it's something to consider.
post #5469 of 12452
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

It tastes like boring rum, and a nice lightly aged rum tastes even more like rum. I like a good rum, dark rum is a vastly underrated spirit for sipping, and a well made spiced rum is about the only basic spirit where I'm okay with it being sweetened. But white rum is just uninteresting to me, any drink that calls for it gets aged rum instead, and is better for it.

The solution is to get an aged rum that has been filtered to remove coloring. Banks 5 Island, a combination of five aged rums, is quite good in this respect.
post #5470 of 12452
Bison grass vodka, imo isn't in the same category. It is a flavor added to vodka, that's not really vodka in the purest sense. Then again I guess somebody can say that gin is just vodka with juniper I still don't think it in the same category. Rum is shit, tequila is the worst shit of them all. Anytime you have to alter, or do something to make a drink tolerable I will pass. But yeah, tequila? Worst swill on the planet.

BTW, Pabst light is extremely hard to find, even in hipsterville. Whenever I come across it I buy it all up just on principle.
post #5471 of 12452
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Bison grass vodka, imo isn't in the same category. It is a flavor added to vodka, that's not really vodka in the purest sense. Then again I guess somebody can say that gin is just vodka with juniper I still don't think it in the same category. Rum is shit, tequila is the worst shit of them all. Anytime you have to alter, or do something to make a drink tolerable I will pass. But yeah, tequila? Worst swill on the planet.

BTW, Pabst light is extremely hard to find, even in hipsterville. Whenever I come across it I buy it all up just on principle.

Depending on what you mean by "alter" all whiskies have been altered.

Btw, some tequila is quite good and a nice sip. It's just most people associate tequila with really shitty swill.
post #5472 of 12452
Im talking any beer that comes with a lime, tequila people have their processes with salt and lemon to make it tolerable. Bullshit.
post #5473 of 12452
I've actually had sipping tequila, and I was surprised at how drinkable it was. It didn't get me to run out and convert to being a lover of tequila, but I wouldn't turn it down if someone offered it to me (for context, aside from very specific circumstances, I would turn down most straight tequila).
post #5474 of 12452
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Im talking any beer that comes with a lime, tequila people have their processes with salt and lemon to make it tolerable. Bullshit.

Yeah, you're conflating the shit kids drink in clubs with good tequila.
post #5475 of 12452
Possibly.
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