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L'Incandescent

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I hydrate with port the grapes give me Vitamin C.

(Do you all remember the singer Vitamin C? She was adorable.)
 

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You have to be careful with smart people. They're usually trying to "work smarter," which is smart people code for "work less."

Well, sure. To the point A_Y made above, we all have a mix of goals, in different ratios, that comprise our personal definitions of "success". We all value financial rewards, prestige, intellectual challenge, sense of purpose, blah, blah, blah according to our personalities and values. But for me at least, working less while holding all of the other variables constant sounds like a form of success.
 

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Well, sure. To the point A_Y made above, we all have a mix of goals, in different ratios, that comprise our personal definitions of "success". We all value financial rewards, prestige, intellectual challenge, sense of purpose, blah, blah, blah according to our personalities and values. But for me at least, working less while holding all of the other variables constant sounds like a form of success.


It took me a while to learn that lesson. I used to be so confused at the behavior of my colleagues, who seemed like they were capable of achieving so much more professional success than they were achieving. Eventually I realized that they had a mix of values that was perfectly reasonable. It took me even longer to realize that my own life looked really bizarre to others. (Since it is my own life, I am used to it.)
 

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People who say "If you get a job you love you'll never have to work a day in your life" I want to punch right in the face.
 

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The saying should be: find a job that pays you and doesn't drive you to kill yourself and find hobbies that you love.
 

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It took me a while to learn that lesson. I used to be so confused at the behavior of my colleagues, who seemed like they were capable of achieving so much more professional success than they were achieving. Eventually I realized that they had a mix of values that was perfectly reasonable. It took me even longer to realize that my own life looked really bizarre to others. (Since it is my own life, I am used to it.)


To state the obvious, the nature of that mix often will change over time as well. I like what I do for a living, and often genuinely enjoy coming to work. But there are various things about my life at this point (an obvious example being parenthood) that make me value free time and schedule flexibility more highly than I did when I was, say, 25 or 30.
 
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Please punch the people who say "you never et tired of working for yourself" as well.


While you're at it, maybe you could punch people who say "a stitch in time saves nine." When I was a youngster that saying caused me so much trouble. What does it mean to stitch time? What does it save nine of? (I understand now, but it was a long journey.)
 

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I would go so far as to say that in many cases there's an inverse relationship. I would love to see a study that examines the college histories of the smartest five kids in graduating classes from marginal to sub-standard high schools. I have this hunch that having a high intellect, and being educated in a poor school surrounded by average to moronic kids, does not force the high intellect kid to develop good study habits. Their natural abilities allow them appear wonderful, as the dumbed down lessons are easily mastered, so when they get to university and are suddenly not the smartest kid in the class, their lack of good study habits harms them.


What if my poor study habits from high school were also sufficient in college?
 

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many work environments seem to be dysfunctional so a lot of times being proactive and having work ethic will still get you nowhere
I guess that realization is often the transition point from working hard to working smart
 

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many work environments seem to be dysfunctional so a lot of times being proactive and having work ethic will still get you nowhere
I guess that realization is often the transition point from working hard to working smart


Bravo...:slayer:
 

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What if my poor study habits from high school were also sufficient in college?


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Mine were too for undergrad, and even my first grad degree...then I had to do graduate level quantitative work, and it was a true ***** and something I just slogged through, never really internalizing mastery of it. Unless you're a Christopher Hirata or Terrence Tao type at some point you're going to run into stuff you're just going to have to put forth some effort to master.
 

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I will always have a small amount of envious hatred for my non-engineering degree friends. College would have been 1000-bajillion-x easier.
 

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Full-time proper studying vs. cramming for a test always yielded lower grades for me. Ditch the studying and hit the bars --- GPA soared.
 

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