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post #21616 of 24135

As an old people I gotta tell ya it was very rare to ever go into a restaurant and see 3or 4 people sitting at a table reading books or news papers . Neither my wife or I were ever allowed to read at the dinner table . I don't think its a generational thing as much as the device itself . I see old people staring into their phones on approximately the same level as kids . None of that changes the fact that its rude. 

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As an old people I gotta tell ya it was very rare to ever go into a restaurant and see 3or 4 people sitting at a table reading books or news papers . Neither my wife or I were ever allowed to read at the dinner table . I don't think its a generational thing as much as the device itself . I see old people staring into their phones on approximately the same level as kids . None of that changes the fact that its rude. 


You must have never been to brunch and seen people reading newspapers or at dim sum at a chinese restaurant. people will be there for hours just reading through the paper.

 

Coffee shop, reading a book? common also.

 

If those same people are on their phone for hours at their table? People would be all on them.

post #21618 of 24135
I once saw a couple eating lunch, texting each other while literally two feet apart. It was bizarre. They'd look up at each other every once and a while and smile or smirk, but they never actually said anything.



I only found out they weren't mute when they ordered.
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post
 

As an old people I gotta tell ya it was very rare to ever go into a restaurant and see 3or 4 people sitting at a table reading books or news papers . Neither my wife or I were ever allowed to read at the dinner table . I don't think its a generational thing as much as the device itself . I see old people staring into their phones on approximately the same level as kids . None of that changes the fact that its rude. 


You must have never been to brunch and seen people reading newspapers or at dim sum at a chinese restaurant. people will be there for hours just reading through the paper.

 

Coffee shop, reading a book? common also.

 

If those same people are on their phone for hours at their table? People would be all on them.

Ok you are right we all sat around , pre smartphone, reading books at dinner just like folks do now.smh

post #21620 of 24135

I remember sitting at a outside dining back when texting was first starting up .Three guys were at the table next to us . Two of them were on their phones and the third guy was just sitting looking bored. When he saw me looking their way he says " I think they are talking about me" . We had a good laugh . The two guys on the phone never looked up

post #21621 of 24135
So the reading vs. smart phone is a tempting analogy but I don't think it quite stands up to scrutiny. Books just quietly sit there without any real form of interactivity. Phones, and people using them, do so in an interactive manner and make a variety of noises, with some of them being loud enough to annoy others around them. If all anyone ever did was quietly read their email that would be fine. People and their smart phones are not happy unless everyone around them knows how funny that LOLcat video is or what the person on the other end of the phone call is wearing to the pub tonight.
post #21622 of 24135
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So the reading vs. smart phone is a tempting analogy but I don't think it quite stands up to scrutiny. Books just quietly sit there without any real form of interactivity. Phones, and people using them, do so in an interactive manner and make a variety of noises, with some of them being loud enough to annoy others around them. If all anyone ever did was quietly read their email that would be fine. People and their smart phones are not happy unless everyone around them knows how funny that LOLcat video is or what the person on the other end of the phone call is wearing to the pub tonight.

Yes, but in practice, the vast majority of people aren't disruptive with their smartphone usage in public.
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There's inevitably some idiot on the subway playing music through the speakers on the phone. Pretty much every phone comes with a crappy pair of headphones that sounds worlds better, never understand why people feel the need to use the speakers.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So the reading vs. smart phone is a tempting analogy but I don't think it quite stands up to scrutiny. Books just quietly sit there without any real form of interactivity. Phones, and people using them, do so in an interactive manner and make a variety of noises, with some of them being loud enough to annoy others around them. If all anyone ever did was quietly read their email that would be fine. People and their smart phones are not happy unless everyone around them knows how funny that LOLcat video is or what the person on the other end of the phone call is wearing to the pub tonight.

Yes, but in practice, the vast majority of people aren't disruptive with their smartphone usage in public.


I don't really get bugged by it that much it just amazes me when I look around and remember when there was no such thing . There is a group of old guys that drink coffee together same time I do.Most of them look at their phones and grunt now and then . The other day my wife and I engaged in a convo with one of them , It got quite lively and even some others joined in.  The next day one of them says "fuck I remember when we used to do that all the time"

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I don't really get bugged by it that much it just amazes me when I look around and remember when there was no such thing . There is a group of old guys that drink coffee together same time I do.Most of them look at their phones and grunt now and then . The other day my wife and I engaged in a convo with one of them , It got quite lively and even some others joined in.  The next day one of them says "fuck I remember when we used to do that all the time"

This saddens me that it affects the older folks too. Best friend and I went to a bar a year or two ago on a Sunday.

In walked these two really old gentlemen, sharing a pint. It was totally clear this was a weekly ritual they had kept up over the years. Our waitress even confirmed as such.

We found it very endearing, and quite frankly, very cool.
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srs, I don't understand people in public spaces, especially small ones like busses or subways who play music out loud on their phones. And no to sound racist but it's often young black males, though not always. I mean I see people walking down the street, or through the supermarket holding their phone generally near their one ear, with music playing full blast out of their phones. Like, can't you live without music for a few minutes. Or in a closed space like a subway car, WTF. Seriously, WTF. Is it a class thing? a stupidity thing? Are they looking for a fight? Are they amused that nobody says anything about it? I was once on a 5 hour bus ride and the guy next to me, a middle aged eastern european man who appeared otherwise normal just started playing music off his phone and looked around like he was doing everyone a favor by sharing his tunes... took me about 30 seconds to cock my head and look at him with an expression of 'what are you doing? and then when he smiled and looked away, another few seconds to firmly tap him on the shoulder and ask him if he had headphones and tell him that nobody else wanted to hear his music. He seemed confused but obliged.
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I once saw a couple eating lunch, texting each other while literally two feet apart. It was bizarre. They'd look up at each other every once and a while and smile or smirk, but they never actually said anything.



I only found out they weren't mute when they ordered.
You realize they were texting about you, right?
post #21629 of 24135
I like to play avant garde classical music real loud on my phone just basically try to raise the level of culture among the people I encounter.
post #21630 of 24135
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So the reading vs. smart phone is a tempting analogy but I don't think it quite stands up to scrutiny. Books just quietly sit there without any real form of interactivity. Phones, and people using them, do so in an interactive manner and make a variety of noises, with some of them being loud enough to annoy others around them. If all anyone ever did was quietly read their email that would be fine. People and their smart phones are not happy unless everyone around them knows how funny that LOLcat video is or what the person on the other end of the phone call is wearing to the pub tonight.

A related point also deals with a slightly different sort of interactivity. The contents of a book or newspaper are static. Yes, the part you haven't read yet is always about Schodinger's cat, and you may be intensely curious about whether the cat is going to live or die. But what's actually in the book isn't going to change. With a smartphone, you could get a text or an email, somebody could post Facebook update, etc. This constant "refreshing" of the content conditions us to habitually check for "new" data. We've also been conditioned, to a certain extent, to feel like the clock begins to run on our obligation to respond to any such new data the second it's received on our device.
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