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post #20431 of 24114
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post
 
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

I don't understand racist sentiments in the US along the lines of "go back to your country". Everybody is an immigrant if you go back far enough generations. Really what's the difference between being an immigrant 1 generation ago and 10 generations ago

Depends where you came from.



Here's what I'm currently not getting:

That thing where somebody posts a picture of a little girl who has a physical birth defect or some sort of evident developmental disorder, writes some story about how another kid something something mean to her on the playground. and then asks everyone on the interwebz to comment on how beautiful she is or "like" if they think she is beautiful. Assuming the story about schoolyard bullying/name-calling/whatever isn't a complete fiction, is the solution really to teach the kid that the way to respond to small-minded comments from others is to indiscriminately seek affirmations of your physical beauty from as many random strangers as possible? Honestly, it creeps me out a little bit.


As an old fart who has spent the vast majority of his life in a world before there even was an internet, i gotta say this whole social media thing creeps me out a lot

post #20432 of 24114
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

The ones who got here 10 generations ago don't act and behave as if they're still living there? Currently, IME, there is less of a willingness to assimilate.

I don't really think that's true. It's always been the same story and same anti immigrant racist sentiment when the Polish came or the Italians came. Always about how they don't assimilate or don't want to learn the language but that dissipates after a few generations and/or when the next wave of immigrants come that they can all unite against. Right now I think it's more about geographic dispersion instead of being concentrated in a few port cities

Anyways that was what I was thinking when I saw videos of the white dudes riding around Mizzou in unlicensed trucks telling the monkeys to go back to Africa. I thought we were all monkeys from Africa and some of our families just got more sun than others
post #20433 of 24114

a big difference is that Irish, Polish, Italian, Jewish, Vietnamese, Cubans etc. came in discrete waves. by boat.

 

pretty sure most immigration these days is from rural Mexico and other southern locales and so i assume that when we talk about 'immigration' as a political issue we're really talking about a steady influx from and through mexico. the plain-and-simple geography makes it a different deal than 100 or 200 years ago

post #20434 of 24114
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post


The ones who got here 10 generations ago don't act and behave as if they're still living there? Currently, IME, there is less of a willingness to assimilate.


to piggyback on my last post:

 

to a degree, there is a disincentive to assimilate. because a person can go "home" for short or extended visits from the US to Mexico. there are plenty of people who functionally live in two places at once - they have an economic home and a cultural home. one of the ways this is manifest is remittance of earnings from the US. did you know that remittances are the 10th largest part of mexican GDP? and growing. 

 

i understand that people have to earn. fine. but my argument has long been that a healthy, functioning nation needs not just economic buy-in from residents, but also political and social involvement as well. sadly i think race will continue to screen the real issue of civil society.

post #20435 of 24114
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to piggyback on my last post:

to a degree, there is a disincentive to assimilate. because a person can go "home" for short or extended visits from the US to Mexico. there are plenty of people who functionally live in two places at once - they have an economic home and a cultural home. one of the ways this is manifest is remittance of earnings from the US. did you know that remittances are the 10th largest part of mexican GDP? and growing. 

i understand that people have to earn. fine. but my argument has long been that a healthy, functioning nation needs not just economic buy-in from residents, but also political and social involvement as well. sadly i think race will continue to screen the real issue of civil society.

From what I understand, this has gotten a lot more difficult recently. Plenty of Mexicans used to basically work seasonally, send back money during the year and then go back in the off-season. Now the odds of getting caught at the border and the cost of crossing are a lot higher, so more are just staying here year round. Really makes you think that a more extensive guest worker program would be very successful.


I've seen remittances described as a form of foreign aid. For many other countries, it's the single biggest source of US influence. We bring over refugees, get to improve their lives, then they work here, earn money, and send it back to help out back home. Better than taxing Americans and sending to some aid group. The scale for Mexico is astronomical, but it's important for Ethiopia, Somalia, Iraq, etc, too.
post #20436 of 24114
One thing I've noticed recently is that when people throw their clothes, they throw like they are making a basketball pass (two hands pushing out from the sternum area). That is about the least efficient way to throw a garment I wonder why everyone does it that way?
post #20437 of 24114
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Originally Posted by double00 View Post
 


to piggyback on my last post:

 

to a degree, there is a disincentive to assimilate. because a person can go "home" for short or extended visits from the US to Mexico. there are plenty of people who functionally live in two places at once - they have an economic home and a cultural home. one of the ways this is manifest is remittance of earnings from the US. did you know that remittances are the 10th largest part of mexican GDP? and growing. 

 

i understand that people have to earn. fine. but my argument has long been that a healthy, functioning nation needs not just economic buy-in from residents, but also political and social involvement as well. sadly i think race will continue to screen the real issue of civil society.

 

Remittances are extraordinarily common for all immigrants, and it always has been.  There is a lot of research on the topic, but it isn't surprising that people who move here send money back to their home countries.

post #20438 of 24114
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Originally Posted by L'Incandescent View Post

One thing I've noticed recently is that when people throw their clothes, they throw like they are making a basketball pass (two hands pushing out from the sternum area). That is about the least efficient way to throw a garment I wonder why everyone does it that way?
On a similar topic, ever notice how boys 12 and under all seem to be really shitty at throwing a decent spiral? What kind of upbringing is this?? I predict the NFL will either fail or start replacing QBs with those football throwing machines in 15-20 years ...
post #20439 of 24114
Playstation doesn't teach you how to throw and neither does absent dads.

The NFL will be all Palestinians in 15-20 years and they will be using rocks instead of balls.
post #20440 of 24114
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On a similar topic, ever notice how boys 12 and under all seem to be really shitty at throwing a decent spiral? What kind of upbringing is this?? I predict the NFL will either fail or start replacing QBs with those football throwing machines in 15-20 years ...


15 yard penalty for touching the throwing machine. 

post #20441 of 24114
Had the strangest disagreement with one of our interns here. He spent about 5 minutes telling me how a project I gave him to do was all wrong (failing to understand the "wrong" parts were where I needed him to update with his research). Not to mention the email I sent him actually had instructions on what I needed from him. After 5 minutes he storms out of my office in a huff saying, "Nevermind". Despite getting pretty annoyed I was also confused. Strange. Not sure how that kid has a job nor doesn't get punched in the face on the regular (hey, maybe he does) but it took a lot of willpower for me not to raise my voice at him.
post #20442 of 24114
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

Had the strangest disagreement with one of our interns here. He spent about 5 minutes telling me how a project I gave him to do was all wrong (failing to understand the "wrong" parts were where I needed him to update with his research). Not to mention the email I sent him actually had instructions on what I needed from him. After 5 minutes he storms out of my office in a huff saying, "Nevermind". Despite getting pretty annoyed I was also confused. Strange. Not sure how that kid has a job nor doesn't get punched in the face on the regular (hey, maybe he does) but it took a lot of willpower for me not to raise my voice at him.

Isn't he an intern because he doesn't have a job?
post #20443 of 24114
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post


Isn't he an intern because he doesn't have a job?


He's an intern because America cannot break with it's tradition of slave labor. 

post #20444 of 24114
That's what internships are for - to let the dumbfucks self-identify before you make the mistake of hiring them permanently
post #20445 of 24114
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post


He's an intern because America cannot break with it's tradition of slave labor. 


You dipshit.
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