Originally Posted by william
I'm doing starting strength right now. It's working really well. I'm not drinking milk though...just eating a lot. I've actually been eating a little too much as my gut and ass have gotten a little fat. I just bought some bigger clothes though so I'm cool with it. My plan is to keep at it until February or so and then try Crossfit for a while. That should lean me out for the Spring & Summer. Then I'll go back to Starting Strength for the Fall/Winter. That's my plan right now anyway..
Thanks for bringing up Crossfit - its a good way to improve your general level of conditioning, but make sure it fits with your fitness goals. eg - if you wanna get lean and mean, crossfit is good but if you want to keep on adding on size and strength, a more regular weightlifting program might be your best bet. A lot of people like to suck Crossfit dick because its the next greatest thing - don't get me wrong, its cool, but its not going to make you big like a regular lifting program will. As long as its what you want..
Originally Posted by db_ggmm
This is a good post and I'm considering reading it once a day for the right attitude. Especially the anecdote guy about stagnating gains with diet changes. That said, it's not so much what I've quoted. A big part of the problem is that 'normal' non-weight lifting people are inundated daily with really bad advice. Eating the way you have outlined is NOT intuitive, is NOT championed on WebMD, Yahoo / Google news, CNN, MSNBC etc, which are all concerned and worried about the weight epidemic in America, not skinnies trying to gain. Trying to erase a decade of nutritional advice is not easy and trying to change 33 yr old eating habits aren't, either. With a little editing and formatting, you could have a sticky.
It is hard to change your eating habits, but once you "get" portion control and what macronutrients you are taking in, its a lot easier to eat properly. Every time you eat, quantify how much of what macronutrient you're taking in. You don't really realize how much crap you eat until you figure it out. Like right now, I just cheated and ate one of those Casa di Mama oven pizzas. Damn good, but it has very little protein in relation to the ridiculous amount of shitty simple carbs. That, and I ate it right before bed. To some kid who thinks "just eat lots and lift rarrggh" he'll probably think something like this is good, because its got cheese and some meat on it, but its actually pretty fucking bad for you. For example, after watching macros religiously I now know about how much 2 cups of rice looks like, so I don't have to freak out when I don't have a measuring cup to count out my carbs. Now I can go out to the market and grab lunch, and instead of eating a meal thats unbalanced, I know that if I at least pay attention to the portions and what I'm taking in, I'll be fine. So instead of getting a combo deal or whatever, I'll get a big piece of chicken from one place, and a couple whole-grain cheese sandwiches from another - bang, got my protein, carbs and fat in the amounts I need. It starts out being very precise and frustrating but as you learn more about how to eat it becomes a lot easier.
Originally Posted by thekunk07
normal non-weight lifting people should kill themselves