I usually agree with pstoller, but have to disagree somewhat with this one. Â I think that designers should size their clothing according to how *they* believe a piece should fit. Â After all, they design on a standard form, and unless there has been some miscommunication with the manufacturer, I'm fairly sure that Tom Ford understands that his size 50 Gucci overcoat is meant to be oversized, same as Hedi Slimane realizes that his size 50 jacket will hug the torso of any man with a standard 33 inch waist. If a customer wants a tighter or looser fit, it is the customer's perogative, not the designer's to conform to his wishes. Sometimes, I see people wearing tight Comme shirts, when it's obvious that the shirt was meant to be worn oversized to emphasize the pattern. Â I've also seen people wear loose Dior (and he wasn't a small man. Â I have no idea how he found the size). Â Fine. Â But that's personal style or the lack thereof, and not necessarily how the designer envisioned his (or her) creation to look.
There may be a standard form, but fit models differ between designers. Obviously, not everyone has the same body type, so what may look horrid in "actual designer size" may look great going a size up or size down. There's a little subversion of a designer's vision going on, but personally, I'll go up or down a size for a particular fit. Sometimes sizes vary in a single designer's line, which is VERY annoying (should go in the other thread
) I have this one Dirk Schonberger shirt which fits perfectly (not too loose, not too tight, neck button can be done up comfortably) and it's an M. I had to get this one jersey type shirt from the same designer in a XXL because the neck hole in M was just too darned tight. And no, my neck hasn't grown lately, I've been a 16 neck for years