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post #46 of 82
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
i respect him a lot as a poet, and i think he is an excellent lyricist, but as a musician i just don't get it.
I tend to agree with you to some extent, but I think what makes Dylan at least somewhat compelling is a soul over skill sort of thing. He has such ownership of his lyrics that there's a certain conviction that comes through in his singing.
post #47 of 82
Tough one, but I'm surprised only one person mentioned what I think is even a more obvious choice than the Beatles, Zeppelin, the Stones, and so on: U2. Their whole discography is excellent, they've been around forever, and they're still going strong. On sheer vocal talent, Natalie Merchant also gets my vote, though her Maniacs/solo discography is slight compared to U2's. Out of shared heritage, I probably should say Dave Matthews Band, but given that their post-Lillywhite albums were kind of yawners and even their live shows don't have the sheer explosiveness of their 1990s shows, I can't. Out of current hometown pride, I should probably add REM, though I don't like them as much as many others do.
post #48 of 82
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
Tough one, but I'm surprised only one person mentioned what I think is even a more obvious choice than the Beatles, Zeppelin, the Stones, and so on: U2. Their whole discography is excellent, they've been around forever, and they're still going strong.

On sheer vocal talent, Natalie Merchant also gets my vote, though her Maniacs/solo discography is slight compared to U2's.

Out of shared heritage, I probably should say Dave Matthews Band, but given that their post-Lillywhite albums were kind of yawners and even their live shows don't have the sheer explosiveness of their 1990s shows, I can't. Out of current hometown pride, I should probably add REM, though I don't like them as much as many others do.

Put this on record as the first post you've ever made where I completely, utterly disagree with you.
post #49 of 82
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Originally Posted by Tck13
The cars are going on tour with Todd Rungren. I heard Ric Ocasek wouldn't do it because of stage fright. (gossip)

I actually heard some of the "new" cars stuff. It's not too bad. I'd have to hear the whole album of course to come up with a better idea, but Rungren seems to do a decent job. He's no Ocasek though.
post #50 of 82
It's gonna have to be either Richard D. James (AKA The Aphex Twin) or The Smiths. Honorable mentions go to The Jam, The Pixies, Napalm Death and Burzum.
post #51 of 82
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
U2. Their whole discography is excellent, they've been around forever, and they're still going strong.

Am I the only one who can not stand U2? I don't know who is more overplayed, them or the Whack Eyed Peas
post #52 of 82
Best Current Band: U2

Band with Most Sociological Influence (ever): The Beatles

Most Overrated Band (ever): The Rolling Blecchhy Stones

Honorable Mentions: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, Bruce Springsteen, Peter Gabriel, Genesis (when Peter Gabriel was in it and a tiny, tiny bit of PC stuff. "Against All Odds" almost DQs them in and of itself...Ooops- Susudio definitely does!), The Doors

Best Ax Man ever: Jimi f'n Hendrix

Best Drummer- Keith Moon (may he rest in peace), John Bonham (the same)

Favorites of Dazed and Confused Devotees like yours truly:

Kansas, Rush, and yes Styx and Boston
post #53 of 82
This is a very hard question. Perhaps the good response would be Beethoven or Chopin. Or it could be John Coltrane or Miles Davis.

Among my favorites, I would say the best ones are Leonard Cohen (for the lyrics, its beautiful poetry, though I am no fan of the stuff he is now releasing), Elliott Smith (he didn't invent anything, but he knew how to make a melody and sing from the heart), The Beatles and... well, this is one is out of the blue I guess, Christian Vander. Vander formed a prog-band in the 70's called Magma, it is rather hard to describe though. However, that guy is a fantastic drummer and he also sing really, really well. Interesting guy.

Edit: I totally forgot about Frank Zappa. This guy is up there with those I mentionned for sure.
post #54 of 82
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Best Current Band: U2

Band with Most Sociological Influence (ever): The Beatles

Most Overrated Band (ever): The Rolling Blecchhy Stones

Honorable Mentions: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, Bruce Springsteen, Peter Gabriel, Genesis (when Peter Gabriel was in it and a tiny, tiny bit of PC stuff. "Against All Odds" almost DQs them in and of itself...Ooops- Susudio definitely does!), The Doors

Best Ax Man ever: Jimi f'n Hendrix

Best Drummer- Keith Moon (may he rest in peace), John Bonham (the same)

Favorites of Dazed and Confused Devotees like yours truly:

Kansas, Rush, and yes Styx and Boston


While I agree that "Against All Odds" and "Sussudio" are not good songs, they were Phil Collins solo efforts, not Genesis songs. My problem with Genesis is that they slowly allowed Phil Collins to take over the direction of the band (especially after Steve Hackett left) so that their music eventually started sounding like Phil Collins solo stuff (see "That's All" and "In Too Deep", for example). On the other hand, this also took them from cult band status to mainstream international rock stars and made them a hell of a lot of money, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Also, to your list of best drummers, I would add Neil Peart (sp?) from Rush.
post #55 of 82
If "best" is defined as "most influential," the answer is (for the 20th century at least) Louis Armstrong. He basically changed the course of two different genres of music (popular and jazz).
post #56 of 82
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Best Current Band: U2 Most Overrated Band (ever): The Rolling Blecchhy Stones Best Drummer- Keith Moon (may he rest in peace), John Bonham (the same)
For starters, at this point you have to give U2 credit as the most overrated. After the Joshua Tree they have only sporadically (sp?) released good tracks. They are gems, but them are hidden amongst dreck. The Best Drummer goes to Stephen Morris Best Bass goes to Peter Hook. I am very firm in my beliefs obviously. bob
post #57 of 82
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Originally Posted by mistahlee
I vote for the second great quintet of Miles Davis - Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter and Tony Williams.


I'm going to go with Miles himself. His influence is incredible, both on the artists he surrounded himself with, such as the aformention quintet, as well on others.
post #58 of 82
You know, Miles Davis was on a Scritti Politti album (Provision). I happen to love SP, Perfect Way was the perfect song of the 80's, but what does that say about Miles, huh? He worked with a total post-punk Brit-pop band. Of course, so did Mos Def on their last one (Anomie & Bonhomie). bob
post #59 of 82
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Originally Posted by rdawson808
Best Bass goes to Peter Hook.
Peter Hook will be DJ'ing at Club Five in DC next Wednesday. Not exactly New Order, but could be interesting . . .

How about a "New Order vs. the Smiths" night that actually involves New Order and the Smiths? New Order and Joy Division bassist Peter Hook has been doing the celebrity DJ thing a la Interpol's Carlos D, and he recently compiled a two-CD set of dance tunes played at Manchester's legendary Hacienda nightclub. (The Hacienda was owned by Factory Records, the label Joy Division and New Order recorded for.) Andy Rourke has gone this route before -- he was in town a few years ago to do a similar set at Five with fellow ex-Smith Mike Joyce -- and tends to play a lot of Britpop and new wave tunes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...on=-77.0419000
post #60 of 82
Morrisey will but Johnny won't. They're the Gilmour and Waters of their set. Now that would be a reunion bill, The Smiths and Pink Floyd, razor blades distributed at the door.
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