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post #16 of 64
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Originally Posted by Aureus
Not for the creation of Breitling or Omega branded products.
Not that they are willing to admit to, at least Brand cache will carry you for a long time, i.e. early japanese cars versus others, but at the end of the day quality will trump all else. Does Lexus now carry any less cache than Mercedes? The South Koreans are making huge inroads also in the auto industry. Remember also that the early Swiss watch makers for many years tried to emulate the US watch industry of the time (Hamilton, Elgin etc). I doubt anyone in the US in the early 1800's thought that the Swiss would ever be the standard in watchmaking. The British and the Americans had a much, much better product at the time.

Would an Omega or Breguet made by chinese hands by any less prestigious than one made by swiss hands?
post #17 of 64
My favorite material for a watch after platinum. I've never been a fan of yellow gold.
post #18 of 64
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Originally Posted by tiger02
If that's the one with English writing instead of Cyrillic, then yes, and I love it. Bought it off a guy on the pmwf. I would have preferred Cyrillic writing but didn't want to wait for a deal as good as the one I got. What do you do for servicing it? I had the crown fall/break/pop off one drunken night, and haven't been able to find a place that can replace it.
I read of a place in the US that is sort of an offical Poljot/Volmax service centre... let me see if I can find it. I can check over at WUS too for you. I agree, the cyrillic version is marvellous - I hope to find one at a reasonable price at some point (Strela prices are going through the roof nowadays). Edit: Found it - http://www.poljotwatch.com/Warranty...._Brand_Watches They may be at the very least able to tell you where to get parts, if not be able to fix it.
post #19 of 64
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Would an Omega or Breguet made by chinese hands by any less prestigious than one made by swiss hands?

Good point. Two of the most celebrated, prestigious and expensive watchmakers in recent years aren't even Swiss: FP Journe of France and A Lange of Germany. The technical complexity, engineering precision and aesthetics far exceed comparable offerings from Patek, Breguet & Audemars, IMHO.

Check them out: FP Journe and A Lange & Sohne
post #20 of 64
For the love of god, please don't buy inferior watches! Unless you are using it as a beater watch (i.e. rock climbing, gym activities, mountain biking, underwater demolition, etc...) purchase a decent watch.

Jon.
post #21 of 64
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Originally Posted by medtech_expat
Good point. Two of the most celebrated, prestigious and expensive watchmakers in recent years aren't even Swiss: FP Journe of France and A Lange of Germany. The technical complexity, engineering precision and aesthetics far exceed comparable offerings from Patek, Breguet & Audemars, IMHO.

Check them out: FP Journe and A Lange & Sohne
Yes, good point.
You know, even the whole "Swiss" designation is full of holes (like you know what - bad pun on fromage). A sizeable percentage of components can be of non-Swiss derivation and still consider it as such.
post #22 of 64
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Chinese are not on par with the Swiss...... yet. The japanese were not on par with the US Auto industry at one time (or the swiss watch making industry) but that quickly changed. Lexus and Grand Seiko are, at a bare minimum, the equal to their European counterparts. BTW, Swatch group (which owns everything from Brietling to Omega to Bregeut), has a Chinese manufacturing facility. For the Chinese, it is only a matter of time, no pun intended. Just ask the Scottish cashmere millls.

As for the watch mentioned, I would stick with stainless (and a non skeletal dial) as it is more versatile.

Swatch Group does NOT own Breitling!

Jon.
post #23 of 64
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
For the love of god, please don’t buy inferior watches! Unless you are using it as a beater watch (i.e. rock climbing, gym activities, mountain biking, underwater demolition, etc…) purchase a decent watch. Jon.
The whole inferior watch thing is rather relative though, Jon. CacheT, accuracy, reliability, build quality and price are IMHO factors that can determine this and the traditional "Swiss" manufacturers do not have the monopoly on any of those. Definition of Swiss, Swiss Made, Swiss Mvmnt, etc: http://www.fhs.ch/en/swissm.php
post #24 of 64
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For the love of god, please don’t buy inferior watches! Unless you are using it as a beater watch (i.e. rock climbing, gym activities, mountain biking, underwater demolition, etc…) purchase a decent watch.

Define "decent."
post #25 of 64
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
Swatch Group does NOT own Breitling!

Jon.

Yes, you're right. I just tend to lump all the crap, overpriced watches out there with Swatch.
post #26 of 64
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Yes, you're right. I just tend to lump all the crap, overpriced watches out there with Swatch.

post #27 of 64
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Does Lexus now carry any less cache than Mercedes?
Actually, much less, as does Infiniti, both of which are frequently referred to (with some accuracy) as rebadged Toyotas and Nissans. This has little, if anything, to do with quality, only with the perception of quality.
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Remember also that the early Swiss watch makers for many years tried to emulate the US watch industry of the time (Hamilton, Elgin etc). I doubt anyone in the US in the early 1800's thought that the Swiss would ever be the standard in watchmaking. The British and the Americans had a much, much better product at the time.
I'm not sure if it is generally known outside of the watch collecting community, but the original reason for requiring "Swiss Made" on watches being sold in the US was so they couldn't be sold as a (much superior) American watch (this was in the mid-19th, early 20th Century). That said, with the exception of one or two German watchmakers, there's no one in the world who comes even close to the quality of the best of the Swiss houses, i.e., Patek, Vacheron, JLC, Rolex (on their better days).
post #28 of 64
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Yes, you're right. I just tend to lump all the crap, overpriced watches out there with Swatch.
Especially those really crappy Breguets.
post #29 of 64
I'm following this with interest as I am increasingly convinced I should be thinking about getting one good watch. But I would like to mention one thing without trying to be rude or pick on anyone:

Cache is pronounced "cash" and means a store (storage space).
Cachet is pronounced "cash-ay" and means prestige.
post #30 of 64
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Originally Posted by j
I'm following this with interest as I am increasingly convinced I should be thinking about getting one good watch. But I would like to mention one thing without trying to be rude or pick on anyone: Cache is pronounced "cash" and means a store (storage space). Cachet is pronounced "cash-ay" and means prestige.
That would be the person with (probably) the largest percentage of own posts edited for typos and misspellings (yours truly). Thanks for the catch, J. I should also mention that I am most likely at some point in the future going to be getting a stainless skeleton and after my very positive experiences with my Seagull and the ST19 movement, it will be the same one as tiger02 is looking at (in ss). And maybe another one or two from that list. Edit 2: See? I forgot a WHOLE WORD from my first sentence!
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