Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
there are 12 guys on the team!!! get that through your head! all this talk about statistics and championships won is just a lazy way of assessing players without having the basketball knowledge to simply watch them play and say this guy is better than that guy. you want to believe that someone who knows nothing about the sport can just look at a list of numbers and determine greatness, and sports are not like that.
Now that I think about it, the situation in soccer is more or less the same. If you ask a million soccer fan who the greatest players ever are, the following names would likely come up most often (in no particular order, and I might forget a few):
- Pele (3 World Cup titles, and various club-level accolades)
- Diego Maradona (2 WC)
- Beckenbauer (1 WC as player, 1 as coach, 1 Euro championship, 3+ Champions League, then called European Cup, titles)
- Johan Cruyff (3 European Cup titles)
- Zinedine Zidane (1 WC, 1 Euro, 1 CL)
One day Ronaldo (the fat one) or C. Ronaldo/Kaka will join them, then again, these 3 have all had won at various levels.
Find me a football great who hasn't won a major championship, and I'll show you then whoever he is, he's at least one notch below the names mentioned.