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post #46 of 68
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Originally Posted by bryce330
I'd be happy to help - unfortunately, I went by both Conn. Ave. and National Press last night and there was hardly anything left. The only Attolini suit I saw was a tan cotton suit in 38R. I'm guessing some douchebag probably realized that he could make $300-500 per suit by flipping them on eBay and bought the rest of them sometime after kabert's visit but before 6 PM last night. Otherwise, I can't imagine how Attolini suits could sell that fast in DC, even at $999 a pop. I didn't see any DV blazers either, although there were plenty of DV pants and shorts at the Conn. Ave. store.

There also wasn't much left at either store from the BG shipment - a few Borrelli shirts at each store, one or two Charvets at each store. I only saw one Kiton at Conn. Ave. - a blue check in size 17. The National Press store had a few more Kitons, but they were mostly linen sport shirts.

I just hope that douchebag was Lance or Ian. Some of us that don't live in NY or Washington appreciate the ability to get merchandise like that significantly discounted. Even if someone flips them on ebay for an extra few hundred, they're still worth every penny.
post #47 of 68
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Originally Posted by rssmsvc
Incidentally the Schaumburg one is the one with nothing but Tommy stuff. Although the Marshall's next door has had Luciano Barbera that was ok but quarter lined and the Off 5th or whatever it is has complete crap too.
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post #48 of 68
i wish i was that douchebag. i tried to get into vacca's stuff, but they claimed they never cleared anything out b/c it was:
1. pretty much all sold out
2. classic pieces that they could carry forward
post #49 of 68
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Originally Posted by rssmsvc
Incidentally the Schaumburg one is the one with nothing but Tommy stuff. Although the Marshall's next door has had Luciano Barbera that was ok but quarter lined and the Off 5th or whatever it is has complete crap too.
Funny thing - I guessed it might be Schaumburg. I've been to that set of shops twice - once when in the area on business (going to a meeting almost literally across the street) and last Thanksgiving (visiting gf's family). The first time was so brief that I didn't have a good sense of what was there or not. The second time I dragged the gf only to be royally disappointed. Don't know what to say, man. My guess is that, your recent experience notwithstaning, Michigan Ave or State Street are the 'good' Filene's, and Schaumburg is the poor cousin. Don't know for sure, but I'd be shocked if Chicago didn't have at least one top-flight FB. The reason I emphasize this nuance is that I have seldom seen Filene's offer a lower-echelon store without at least one store with much better selection in the same metro area.
post #50 of 68
I am heading downtown Monday and will check out both stores because I have work near both.

The LB was quarter lined but just didn't do it for me, I have 2 LB suits and they didn't feel or look the same.

I did ask the manager if I could buy some of the LB hangers which were these wonderful wood ones and were being used in clearance dress shirts and she just gave 5 to me with the purchase of 1 shirt.
post #51 of 68
Well the state street store had a lot of Borrelli shirts and a few ties, no suits worth a second look. A lot of the weird stuff that never sells like bright orange linen pants.

The Michigan store rocked, it had some ver nice Oxxford suits , and 2 Kiton suits , some nice Borrelli Pants. I didn't find any Oxxfords in my size but if you are in the area take a look.

First time I ever saw a fully line Oxxford suit jacket. I don't know if was good or bad becaue all the nice Oxxfors I have seen have the buttons in a bag in the pocket and these were sewed on manhattan 2 model.
post #52 of 68
DID YOU SEE ANY SIZE 42SHORT SUITS THERE?!?!?!?


wow, sounds like you found a goldmine of great items there.
post #53 of 68
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Originally Posted by rssmsvc
First time I ever saw a fully line Oxxford suit jacket. I don't know if was good or bad becaue all the nice Oxxfors I have seen have the buttons in a bag in the pocket and these were sewed on manhattan 2 model.
OK, I'm gonna re-construct an old thread that got Son of Beau Brummel upset last time. FB is the only place that I've seen fully-lined Oxxford suits. I noticed this again last week - a whole selection of sizes in the same fabric, all Manhattan II, all fully lined, all labeled for 'Store 123'. They are still fully-canvassed and seem as well made as any other Oxxford, but because they are all of a piece and are different from the norm, they are also a bit odd. I speculated some time ago that FB might have some sort of 'overrun' deal with Oxxford. FB buys a set number of suits that Oxxford does not need. Oxxford's tailors could be kept busy when demand was otherwise slack - why not crank out the rest of the fabric (or use up the rest of the work year) making '123' suits if your store orders weren't as high as you'd hoped. FB has a ready market for the suits, Oxxford still gets something approaching its normal price, everyone is copacetic. The details of my speculation (admittedly groundless) were roundly declaimed, but SoBB did say that Oxxford had a 'stock on hand' system for unexpected orders from sellers. His sense, and he appears to know the Oxxford management, was that these were suits made so that Oxxford could rapidly fulfill orders from small shops as they came in. Periodically, the company would liquidate this 'just in case' stock to FB. My questions are - Why only the Manhattan II? Why particular details (fully-lined, attached buttons) which clearly differentiate them from the majority of Oxxfords that one finds in specialty stores/Neiman's? Why only Filene's? Why liquidate at all if the style is the most classic, middle-American one that Oxxford makes? And if this is a 'periodic' liquidation vs an ongoing system to more closely match output to market, why does FB always seem to have these suits on hand in decent numbers? No matter how one slices it, the quality of manufacture seems to be very good on the FB '123' Oxxford, at least to my untrained eye. RSSMSVC mentions the attached buttons which, come to think of it, are a bit unusual. Nonetheless, it is not like they are a bad value or that Oxxford is seriously cutting corners (it does not strike me as the kind of brand that would risk its name in that way). To be clear, FB also gets Oxxfords that were destined for specialty stores - they are often in different styles (Gibbons, etc) and are quarter-lined. Anyone else have insight on what the Hardy Boys might title 'The Mystery of the Fully-Lined Oxxfords'?
post #54 of 68
I know there were 42's in Oxxford but I could not tell you if they were Regular or Shorts.
post #55 of 68
Duveen,

Oxxford's stand is they quarter line it so that you can see that all the seams are furnished perfectly. I would like to know if anyone purchasing an Oxxford for FB had the lining opened and compare the work.

The materials were excellent, I just don't get the sewed on buttons and closed sleeve.

I did find one other closed sleeve Oxxford called the "Henley"at Saks Fifth Avenue. It was quarter lined.
post #56 of 68
I only care for the Radcliff by Oxxford.

Now if Filene's would get those, I may go bankrupt, but I'll look good doing it.
post #57 of 68
Thread Starter 
I checked out the Mazza Filene's Basement yesterday -- a surprising amount of goodies there still from Bergdorf and Domenico Vacca. Still @7 D-V blazers and 1 royal blue with dark red windowpanes Sartoria Attolini blazer; lots of Borrelli shirts for $129 and $149 (no Kiton left that I saw) and about 5 or 6 nice Borrelli casual (golf-type) jackets; lots of very nice D-V slacks and casual shirts and linen golf jackets; decent amount of Borrelli, Incotex and Luciano Barbera slacks. Some nice Longhi belts for Bergdorfs in various shapes and sizes and colors, including some $600 alligator belts (marked down to, IIRC, $160 or so). I picked up a John Smedley shirt for $49 and a pair of D-V shorts for $70. I was very tempted by a D-V super-130s navy blue w/ royal blue windowpanes blazer, but not at $699 (though the D-V full retail price was $2,900). All in all, I think the Mazza Filene's has more "product" from BG and D-V than the Conn. Ave and National Press stores combined.
post #58 of 68
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Originally Posted by Duveen
FB is the only place that I've seen fully-lined Oxxford suits.
I own a fully lined Gibbons sportcoat. Made for NM, iirc.
post #59 of 68
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guessing some douchebag probably realized that he could make $300-500 per suit by flipping them on eBay and bought the rest of them sometime after kabert's visit but before 6 PM last night.

I doubt it - buying a suit for 1K plus tax and selling it for $1500 is not a very good markup, unless you are made of money.
post #60 of 68
I just returned from the Mazza Gallerie FB, and it still has some pretty nice stuff. There's a blue cotton Cantarelli suit that had me at hello, until I noticed the pants were pegged. Still, at $300, it seemed a good deal. I passed on it, but the fabric is really nice. Too bad about the pegged legs, or I'd have bought it. The FB there has a ton of really nice ties- Charvet, RJ, Truzzard, Zegna, and even some of the Versace ones were nice. I'll get flamed for admitting this, but I actually liked the styling of some of the Armani pieces they have from Bergdorf. I know they're not made well, but the styling was really good, in my opinion. Anyways, if you're in the market for ties, check out the MG FB in DC. Don't even bother going to Loehman's, as they had nothing. Lastly, FB has a coupon that gives you 20% off any one item. I think it's good until the 27th. [edited to add:] They had several Bottega Veneta ties there, too, which I had never seen before. They all seemed to be of the 3" variety, right up Kent's alley.
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