I bought my R1200ST at 51,000 Km ( 31 K miles). Bikes with more miles were for the most part older models.
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If I bought it new (or newish- I got my bike at 250 miles for 1/2 price!) then I will know what the issues are with it. Just gives me more comfort and confidence. Truthfully I am not sure I can buy a used bike the more I think about it.
GSX-S750 is crap.... it's already about 6-7 years old I think. They need to completely do it over. SV650 looks interesting... a litte more power and some lost weight. But yea, looking at it more, meh. A used one with some work would be much sicker. They just need to redo that engine.
I get ~40-45 MPG on my bike now no problem, but bigger displacement bikes do more like 30-35. I dont know how many miles you have under your belt but I would still give it time. There will be deals next winter. IMO if you don't have ~10K miles of riding under your belt it's probably too early to go to a liter bike. SV1K is OK but bikes like the Speed Triple and Z1000 seem much faster, particularly in the low and mid range based on roll on times I'm seeing. But yea I would give it some time
Yeah, I know the GSXS750 needs an engine reboot, but that's a great engine size for a naked.
Honestly this 'new' sv650 is the bike that the gladius should have been. But the stock can on the sv650 is so heavy that they can legit just swap that and save 10 lbs so the weight savings is meh at best. The stock dogbones are ridiculously heavy. I just swapped the vortex lowering links my bike came with for stock dogbones and it's a shocking difference. I couldn't use the setting on the lowering links for the stock height. If I had a dremel I'd have filed it down to work.
I really like the 1k and I've read good things from people that have ridden both. It's honestly not THAT much more powerful. The sv650 is 70 hp and the 1k is 105 or so. It's not like jumping to an R1 with twice the hp of the sv if not more. V twins are torquey but these guys are tuned for mid range.
That said, I'm interested in the street triple, not the speed triple. My insurance with the street or the sv1k would only go up like 20-30 a year. Way less than I anticipated.
The updated sv650 is a bit of a disappointment. No USD forks, same gladius looks, they say the engine is improved but it's really not putting out more grunt than the old SV650, which is a bit of a bummer. Unsure what it's going to be competing with since I don't foresee the pricepoint to be that competitive.
Looks like atleast they lowered the tank from the original? They've apparently reduced the weight a bit too, but honestly the stock exhaust was so heavy that they could have shaved 10 lbs off the bike just by swapping to something lighter...
I honestly like the new bike stylistically. I'd trade mine for it in a heartbeat, but if they're re-releasing the bike then the least they could do was make more than stylistic changes. The engine deserves a little bit of love. It's basically 12+ years old at this point... Don't get me wrong. It's a great little engine. I've been really enjoying the bike so far, but Suzuki seems to just go back and update a design and call it a new bike.
Also, I hate the exhaust and the bars look unnecessarily high in comparison. Icky banana seat tho.
Frame looks like a ducati, I like the round headlight, updated dash is really well thought out. The dash looks like it was borrowed from the striple though.
SV rider seems to think the geometry is going to be a step in the right direction relative to gladius.
I like it. It's way more butch than the Gladius. Exhaust is an easy fix. My main gripe is if I am spending $6K or w/e on a new bike I want more power. It literally would have cost them nothing to punch this out to 800cc for a grunty 100 HP. Then add an R model with USD forks, a better rear shock and better brakes. Would give bikes like the FZ-09 and Striple a run for the money while looking better and costing way less, respectively.
Are people really that concerned with power on the SV650?
Most owners seem quite happy with them. I only know a few, but ridethecliche is the only one I have seen that seems to have such an immediate "this thing is weak, It needs more power" opinion.
He hasn't taken a rider's safety course yet: his opinion is invalid.