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post #4006 of 4515
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

@Coolio

You keep saying that but I disagree with you. Anyone who rides any distance riding would prefer a literbike just so your engine isn't spinning at 10k+ rpm for hours at a time. Those who commute on the highways usually prefer a larger engine a well

As far as those bikes being derivative of "cheaper" bikes, you are somewhat right. The active damping suspension in the HP4 is leaps and bounds beyond anything ont he road and is the future of motorcycling suspension. The Panigale R is a ½ away from the race only Panigale and about 1½ steps away from the $15k model

My bike is far from the size or power of a liter bike, but it cruises on the highway between 4-6K all day. Plus race ergos + commute = does not compute. Not to mention those bikes are geared all crazy for the track and not the street. I can get something like a Ninja 1000 or even a Hayabusa for the daily grind, but the case for an ass-toasting low end burping ergo pretzel Panigale being a great street bike is pretty weak.

HP4 is reasonable, I think. Isn't it like $20K? High but reasonable for a derivative of a mainstream model. For Superleggera money I would want a MotoGP bike for the street, not a blinged out $15K Panigale. JMO
post #4007 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

How many of you guys commute to work, and how do you deal with wearing bike gear and going into an office, do you change once you get to work or what?

I'm trying to put together a list of gear to be ready for when my bike arrives.

One thing i'm reading on a lot of forums is that many guys don't wear proper pants. They go with gloves, jacket, boots but regular jeans or slacks or whatever.

My office is business casual to the point where I can wear jeans, and I was looking at a pair of the Maple denim, they're close to $600, wtf?

Also, does anyone ride in "fashion boots," i'm talking about things like Red Wing Iron Rangers, or Wolverine Thousand Miles? Would this be unwise for urban commuting?

 

I'm guilty of wearing only helmet, gloves, jacket, and then regular jeans and w1k's or other casual boots, when riding to work. My commute is only a few miles, so I take my chances, though I wouldn't advise it.

 

You can change at work if you want to get some proper bottom's. Keeping a pair of shoes at your desk will eliminate the need to carry them to work when you ride in proper motorcycle boots.

 

One thing I was thinking about for riding to work was strap-on knee/shin pads. Not sure how viable they are.

post #4008 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

I'm guilty of wearing only helmet, gloves, jacket, and then regular jeans and w1k's or other casual boots, when riding to work. My commute is only a few miles, so I take my chances, though I wouldn't advise it.

You can change at work if you want to get some proper bottom's. Keeping a pair of shoes at your desk will eliminate the need to carry them to work when you ride in proper motorcycle boots.

One thing I was thinking about for riding to work was strap-on knee/shin pads. Not sure how viable they are.

I live in downtown Chicago but my job (eliminated last year) was in the 'burbs (Naperville) so around a 30-mile commute, much of it on crowded expressways. Since I worked finance, we were business dress M-Th and business casual on F.

A jacket, helmet, and gloves were no problem with business wear, though I have yet to get my dream jacket for riding in business attire, the Aether Skyline. Leg protection was trickiest, but I wore a Kevlar liner with Forcefield knee-armor under my wool dress pants - practically invisible. For feet, I kept a couple of pairs of shoes in my desk as the office, captoe Oxfords in black and brown, and changed there.

For casual day, I had a couple of pair of BMW City 2s (the jeans and the canvas-look pants) which offer good protection as far as quality armor, full Kevlar lining, and high abrasion resistance (and at $250 on Amazon cheaper than some jeans I'd seen that were as capable). Since then I've also sampled other Kevlar denim - I've got Bilt Ironworkers and Sliders 4.0, and feel the Sliders offer decent protection for the price, though I favor these for city speeds rather than highway. For footwear, I wear TCX Streets, which resemble athletic high tops. I'm also looking to add some Dianese Technical Sneakers simply because I like the look of them.
post #4009 of 4515

Ooof. Chicagoland to Chicago and vice versa is a brutal commute.

 

Nice write-up.

post #4010 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

How many of you guys commute to work, and how do you deal with wearing bike gear and going into an office, do you change once you get to work or what?

I'm trying to put together a list of gear to be ready for when my bike arrives.

One thing i'm reading on a lot of forums is that many guys don't wear proper pants. They go with gloves, jacket, boots but regular jeans or slacks or whatever.

My office is business casual to the point where I can wear jeans, and I was looking at a pair of the Maple denim, they're close to $600, wtf?

Also, does anyone ride in "fashion boots," i'm talking about things like Red Wing Iron Rangers, or Wolverine Thousand Miles? Would this be unwise for urban commuting?

I work at an architecture firm and dress in jeans most days. If I have a meeting then it's no bike that day.
The days I do ride in to the office it's jeans, my A* leather jkt, A* gloves, Sidi boots and helmet. Extra shoes in my bag and a clean shirt.
post #4011 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

How many of you guys commute to work, and how do you deal with wearing bike gear and going into an office, do you change once you get to work or what?

I'm trying to put together a list of gear to be ready for when my bike arrives.

One thing i'm reading on a lot of forums is that many guys don't wear proper pants. They go with gloves, jacket, boots but regular jeans or slacks or whatever.

My office is business casual to the point where I can wear jeans, and I was looking at a pair of the Maple denim, they're close to $600, wtf?

Also, does anyone ride in "fashion boots," i'm talking about things like Red Wing Iron Rangers, or Wolverine Thousand Miles? Would this be unwise for urban commuting?

I too am getting my bike soon (Honda cb500f) and am putting together a gear list.

 

AGV K4 EVO Helmet - $240

Rev'it Concorde Jacket - $350 (really nice casual looking jacket, armor pockets, thermal liner, rev'its stuff is awesome I recommend)

Rev'it Hybrid WSP Gloves - $80 (fully armored knuckles, wind resistant, for $10 more you can buy the rain resistant versions)

I'll be wearing "fashion" boots, althought very sturdy, when riding. I bought a pair of J. shoes for $220.

Some over pants - might be in the agenda too, for days when I need to wear nice trousers. it will be a while before I risk the deadly commute into philly from NJ though.

 

For urban commuting - city only, I see people get pretty damn casual, the low speeds seem comforting but a lot can go wrong at 30-35mph...i'd say you be fine with regular boots, riders who actually wear riding boots are in the minority (not saying this is a reason to conform).

 

I'd advise over pants instead of ugly motorcycle padded denim. throw them over your jeans, when you arrive, fold'em up, throw'em in the bags/backpack/carry'em in and stuff'em in your desk.

post #4012 of 4515
You need Helmet gloves (you need 3 pairs mesh, leather, gauntlet) and jacket for sure. For fall/winter get some leather jacket don't think you need armor for now unless you want to.

For pants someone mentioned you can get plain looking KEVLAR liner jeans which will cover your legs and ass. this is really important. If it get cold, get over pants (textile or leather). Yes over pants getting baggy but from my experience is I usually get cold on legs but not upper body. I wear plain black leather jeans (levis looking). If it get colder, you can get thermal underwears. You can also wear chaps but I don't think it fit your bike.

as for boots, I don't recommend you wear fashion looking biker wannabe boots. Those boots offers you no protection. Get a pair of sturdy boots and wear it. No matter it's in summer or winter, you need real boots. I wouldn't sacrifice less protection for anything. yes There are some real motorcycle boots and good looking. Search brands like Dainese (italian) or ICON (portland, oregon). ICON has a line called ICON Thousand. I like it a lot. So get another pair of casual shoes at office.

Also for night riding, get a cheap ugly reflective vest 5 bucks from ebay. It's ugly I know but you need to let other people see you. Always assume you are invisible and people trying to kill you.
post #4013 of 4515
For some reason I think a pair of proper pants more important than jacket. People often ignore the pants.

epb, those are some good suggestions, I'm a big fan of Dainese as well. I think they only got 3 stores in States: Chicago, SF, and Orange County in SoCal. Revzilla is my friend. What bike do you ride?
post #4014 of 4515
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Originally Posted by andrewgreg View Post

For some reason I think a pair of proper pants more important than jacket. People often ignore the pants.

epb, those are some good suggestions, I'm a big fan of Dainese as well. I think they only got 3 stores in States: Chicago, SF, and Orange County in SoCal. Revzilla is my friend. What bike do you ride?

Love Revzilla, most of my gear came from them, though I browse everyone constantly. I've currently got 3 Hondas - CB400T, Hawk GT (NT650), and CBR600RR. The CBR is the first modern bike I've owned, and it's got me considering reducing the fleet to two - something as new as but more practical for commuting than the CBR, and something fun with a classic vibe to tinker with. Yamaha FZ-09 and Bolt, Triumph Speed Triple R and Bonnie, maybe Honda CB1100 and an old CB550.
post #4015 of 4515

I don't understand what's so appealing about Dainese; so far as I can tell, most other brands offer better quality/construction/materials at a cheaper price.

 

Also, isn't ICON 1000 stuff all made in China?

 

A few dozen pages back I was asking for some gear rec's. Based on rec's here and my research, I like the following brands:

 

Jackets/Pants: Vanson, Fox Creek Leather

Boots: Sidi, Gaerne

Gloves: Furygan, Held

Helmet: Shoei, Bell, Arai, Schuberth

post #4016 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

I don't understand what's so appealing about Dainese; so far as I can tell, most other brands offer better quality/construction/materials at a cheaper price.

Also, isn't ICON 1000 stuff all made in China?

A few dozen pages back I was asking for some gear rec's. Based on rec's here and my research, I like the following brands:

Jackets/Pants: Vanson, Fox Creek Leather
Boots: Sidi, Gaerne
Gloves: Furygan, Held
Helmet: Shoei, Bell, Arai, Schuberth

My Dainese stuff has been pretty solid. Compared to the Rev'it and other stuff I've owned especially.
I like Daytona boots personally.
post #4017 of 4515
My advice is to get some proper motorcycle boots for commuting and change into a pair or loafers or whatever when you get to your desk. When you try to have a footwear that will work on bike and at office you end up compromising on both ends- protection and professional looks.

It may be over the top but when I'm on the bike I'm wearing Alpine stars Supertech Rs. Track or office. Injuries to feet are very disruptive to life.


Regarding overpants, this is mine and many other people's blind spot. I can tell you that unless the pants zip all the way up, you won't use them daily. A one - piece Aerostitch is probably in my commuting future, as much as I hate the image.
post #4018 of 4515
I wear overpants a fair amount, but, I'll agree, they are the one thing I'll skip first.

Think of it this way - gloves and boots all protect small bones that are hard to piece together again. Helmet and jacket protect life essential stuff.

I did buy a pair of eSquad jeans which I haven't really gotten to test out yet, but hoping are the solution...
post #4019 of 4515
Keep in mind that there is a difference between something like a redwing or Chippewa boot and some Kenneth Cole fashion boot.

We call those work boots fashion boots because work wear is in, but it is wrong to say they offer zero protection. They aren't designed specifically to protect against motorcycle injuries, but they are sturdy boots and can take a beating.
If you already own them, they should be fine for commuting around the city.
If you don't own them and are going to go spend 2-300 on a pair of boots... I can see how you might be better served by a moto-specific boot.
post #4020 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

I don't understand what's so appealing about Dainese; so far as I can tell, most other brands offer better quality/construction/materials at a cheaper price.

Also, isn't ICON 1000 stuff all made in China?

A few dozen pages back I was asking for some gear rec's. Based on rec's here and my research, I like the following brands:

Jackets/Pants: Vanson, Fox Creek Leather
Boots: Sidi, Gaerne
Gloves: Furygan, Held
Helmet: Shoei, Bell, Arai, Schuberth

ICON 1000 mostly made in China well there are so many things on your bike made in China as well. Is made in China matters don't buy it.

Vanson and Fox creek is OK. It fits traditional Harley image better. It's a complete different league with brands like Dainese ICON or even Alphinestar who's more focus on younger race track style.

i primarily recommend dainese motorcycle jacket and and for racing pants and racing suits, Dainese really did well. When you pay 500 bucks for a pair of pants the design really matters. Italians still got the look and branding.
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