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post #3691 of 4654
Speaking of motorcycle accidents... or not... IDK here.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/07/2014-ktm-1290-superduke-r-first-look-review-photos/?src=SOC&dom=fb

KTM_1290-SUPERDUKE-R-3-4-FRONT.jpg
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Nice of you to help. Most people are douchebags. I remember when I got in my first (and thus-far) only motorcycle accident, I went high side off the bike, and the bike stopped on the center line of a two lane road. When I went to pick up the bike some guy was yelling at me for blocking the lane. Yeah dude, I crashed just to inconvience you...

Similar to me when I had my accident. I had someone trying to make it through an accident between a car and me (a car turned left in front of me) and almost ran over my legs while trying to get by us. Luckily, I moved my legs while I was laying on the ground or that person may have driven over them.
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Quote of the day: "A Harley-Davidson is the most efficient way to convert gasoline into noise, without the side effect of horsepower."

I was just up in Laconia checking out the upper New England foliage. 9/10 bikes you see there are Harleys. Minimal gear, no helmets. The women on back all had the same Harley logo leather jacket.  Mostly dudes riding around with a scowl on their faces riding baggers with big touring fairings. Logos everywhere on everything in Laconia.

At first I made my usual snide remarks about 700lb chrome money pits with no handling or horsepower. But then something occurred to me. There are people out there who don't care about things like taking a corner elegantly, surfing a torque curve, rev matching and the lot. There are some who are perfectly content to barrel down the road making noise enough to draw eyes. And when people are looking at you to see who it is that's so cool, you really would do yourself a disservice by hiding your cool face under a pesky helmet. Naturally, you'll need your sled to vibrate like a Chinese tractor, since you'll need something in lieu of cornering, wind and speed to remind you that you're actually on a motorcycle.

And if that's what makes you happy, who am I to pooh-pooh it?

Those are always the douche bags that are too cool to wave...
post #3694 of 4654
I heard a quip once that seemed pretty insightful-- Harley's marketing genius is that they sell motorcycles to people who arent into motorcycles.
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Speaking of motorcycle accidents... or not... IDK here.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/07/2014-ktm-1290-superduke-r-first-look-review-photos/?src=SOC&dom=fb

KTM_1290-SUPERDUKE-R-3-4-FRONT.jpg

 

 

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Those are always the douche bags that are too cool to wave...

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I heard a quip once that seemed pretty insightful-- Harley's marketing genius is that they sell motorcycles to people who arent into motorcycles.

I"m not much into the wave. I'll do it if someone waves to me, but I just don't care if they don't.

I don't see why all the hate on Harley. There are pretentious pricks riding everything -- there are certainly Ducati riders who would never give someone the time of day.
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Those are always the douche bags that are too cool to wave...

Tends to be.
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I don't see why all the hate on Harley. There are pretentious pricks riding everything -- there are certainly Ducati riders who would never give someone the time of day.

We're just reporting what we've noticed. I don't hate harley. Hey, I'd love to have an orange Fat Bob as maybe a third bike.

But still, Harley is the Bose of motorcycles. For most people, it's as good as it gets. It's shiny, sounds great, costs enough to be out of reach for many people and is internationally accepted as "cool."

And then there are machines for people who want every component to work efficiently to reinforce and strengthen the the overall design purpose - and to do it with flair. I guess that's why I'm so in love with MV Agusta. I don't even want to own one because if I scratched a turn signal I'd probably have an aneurism.
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Those are always the douche bags that are too cool to wave...

 

 

Do you wave to scooter riders?  I had one wave to me and I looked back at him like a confused dog

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y6HGidq_6lI/Tm-RYoO7c8I/AAAAAAAABE4/GmF4BUxDSog/s1600/confused_dog.jpg 

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Do you wave to scooter riders?  I had one wave to me and I looked back at him like a confused dog

confused_dog.jpg 

Maybe they are also motorcyclist and it's a habitual thing?
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Funny that it is only in the US are scooters not really considered motorcycles but some sort of other

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they are in these parts too. generally used, yes, but they fall in a different (less kw) insurance category, and require different plates and license to be allowed to ride.

In addition, yesterday I completed part 2 of our required motorcycle tests. Only one test to go and Ill be allowed to ride, which I will celebrate by buying something old to rebuild over the winter months!
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And then there are machines for people who want every component to work efficiently...

I guess that's why I'm so in love with MV Agusta.
Does not compute

MV Agusta has been making modern sport bikes for... a decade at least?... and they JUST figured out how to do fuel injection for the street

Dont get me wrong, MV Agusta makes great, gorgeous bikes, but I would hardly call them the pinnacle of motorcycle mechanical design. They are the Lamborghini of sportbikes, with every kind of cliche that comes with that.

To a degree, I kind of see both sides on the Harley thing. EVERY motorcycle outside of things like a TU250 or Bandit is largely image, on the street. There is no reason to ride a Panigale on the street. So dumping on Harley owners for being all image while giving a pass to sport bike riders who will never see a track is kind of silly to me. But at the same time, IMO, the bikes are unacceptably crude, and the image just doesn't resonate with me at all. Back in the days when it was legitimate bad asses on clean Sportsters, fuck yeah. I don't see ANY of those guys or bikes anymore. I went to the gym today, out front there was a Fat Bob with a full size American Flag hanging off the back. That, and the midlife crisis dentists, are the new Harley image... no thanks.
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Do you wave to scooter riders?  I had one wave to me and I looked back at him like a confused dog

confused_dog.jpg 

Lol
post #3704 of 4654
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Does not compute

MV Agusta has been making modern sport bikes for... a decade at least?... and they JUST figured out how to do fuel injection for the street

Dont get me wrong, MV Agusta makes great, gorgeous bikes, but I would hardly call them the pinnacle of motorcycle mechanical design. They are the Lamborghini of sportbikes, with every kind of cliche that comes with that.

To a degree, I kind of see both sides on the Harley thing. EVERY motorcycle outside of things like a TU250 or Bandit is largely image, on the street. There is no reason to ride a Panigale on the street. So dumping on Harley owners for being all image while giving a pass to sport bike riders who will never see a track is kind of silly to me. But at the same time, IMO, the bikes are unacceptably crude, and the image just doesn't resonate with me at all. Back in the days when it was legitimate bad asses on clean Sportsters, fuck yeah. I don't see ANY of those guys or bikes anymore. I went to the gym today, out front there was a Fat Bob with a full size American Flag hanging off the back. That, and the midlife crisis dentists, are the new Harley image... no thanks.

Yes and no. Harley is actually trying to redo its branding and get away from the middle-aged dentists. We'll see. I'm partial because my step-dad always had Harleys when I was growing up. They don't appeal to me, but there are way too many who paint the riders with broad strokes and give the Ducati and Hayabusa guys a pass.
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Yes and no. Harley is actually trying to redo its branding and get away from the middle-aged dentists. We'll see. I'm partial because my step-dad always had Harleys when I was growing up. They don't appeal to me, but there are way too many who paint the riders with broad strokes and give the Ducati and Hayabusa guys a pass.
They need to redo the bikes. Branch off a new modern line that isn't weird like Buell. I like the look of the Sportster but I can't reconcile its stupid low tech and stone age NVH. Big part of why Harleys caught on 50 years ago is because they were cutting edge. They need to step into the 21st century if they want to stay in business.
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