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post #3601 of 4515
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Yeah, i'm hoping a side effect of the bike is slaying puss, i'm not too worried haha. How is riding in NYC brutal, coming from someone like yourself who has done it?
Thanks man, and absolutely. I'm not a squid.

 

Wouldn't be my first choice to learn how to ride unless you are out in Eastern Queens or Staten Island

 

 

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Question for the folks here, would you guys take a 250cc bike on the highway for an extended period of time?

 

Didn't you decide to get that tiny lil bike by the no name company?  How much horsepower does it make?  You might think I am joking but all 250s are not made the same.  Look at some hp numbers for bikes.  note: numbers in red are dyno figures taken at the wheel by Cycleworld.  The others are manufacturers hp figures taken at the crank (which means less power when measured at the wheels)

 

CB500: 46 hp

Ninja 300: 35 hp

Ninja 250:  25 hp

CBR250: 24 hp

KLX250sf: 21 hp

Honda Rebel:  19 hp

Misfit:  14 hp

 

 

No friggin way I'd get on the highway on Rebel.  Trying it on a Misfit for any appreciable amount of time is a deathwish unless you are sitting in rush hour traffic

post #3602 of 4515
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Have any of you guys ever done an Edelweiss or other European motorcycle tours?

I'm trying to be more proactive with my vacation planning and combine a couple of interests while I'm at it.

 

I like the idea of tours because most of them have a support van that carries your luggage.  I hate the idea because I will not be able to set my own pace whether fast or slow.

 

One of my riding buddies is married to an Air Force girl and they were shipped out  to Aviano AFB in northern Italy.  I have a standing invitation to come visit and ride the Alps. I want to do Stelvio Pass among other places but I just can't see myself doing this with a tour group with unknown riders with unknown skill levels.  I think it is best to handpick your squad and arrange it yourself. I have 3 fellas that would do this with me (once I decide to do it of course)

 

 

Would you lookey there - dude is on a Streetfighter S

post #3603 of 4515
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post


Misfit:  14 hp

Ok, so maybe it's not faster than my 400 (which looks like it was rated at 36hp@8.5k in the '70s, but I am pretty sure it is not pulling anywhere near that these days).
post #3604 of 4515
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Question for the folks here, would you guys take a 250cc bike on the highway for an extended period of time?

 

Nope. I won't even take my 800cc cruiser on the highway for an extended period of time. Maybe it's me being overly cautious, but with my max speed at like 93mph and my max *comfortable* speed at like 75-80 its hard to keep highway traffic in my rearview. And if you can't do that, you've got to be cautious about idiots swerving and who's coming up from behind you. Sure, you maybe think the slow lane is a safe place to hang out. WRONG, it's about the worst place to be. That's where all the merging happens, including mister jackass wanna be racer in the left lane Honda Civic with trashcan exhaust tips and a huge spoiler who'd rather put you on your ass than miss his exit...

 

Yeah, I'll spend more time on the highway when I can peg it at a comfortable 95 and hang out in the left lane. Will need a new bike for that. But I prefer to only worry about what's coming up in front. Not what's on my sides and rear.

 

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I actually love the Guzzi more shog[1].gif

CRD does awesome bikes.

C'mon you just love those ridiculous chunky tires.

 

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Is your knee on the ground ? Cause if not, means you can go faster/harder.

 
Like said before, just push on your bar and keep the acceleration steady. Yeah. Push. Don't pull. And down shift before leaning in, not while, not after.

 

Thanks man, and guys in general.

post #3605 of 4515
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

C'mon you just love those ridiculous chunky tires.

Guilty as charged.
post #3606 of 4515
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

Nope. I won't even take my 800cc cruiser on the highway for an extended period of time. Maybe it's me being overly cautious, but with my max speed at like 93mph and my max *comfortable* speed at like 75-80 its hard to keep highway traffic in my rearview. And if you can't do that, you've got to be cautious about idiots swerving and who's coming up from behind you. Sure, you maybe think the slow lane is a safe place to hang out. WRONG, it's about the worst place to be. That's where all the merging happens, including mister jackass wanna be racer in the left lane Honda Civic with trashcan exhaust tips and a huge spoiler who'd rather put you on your ass than miss his exit...

Yeah, I'll spend more time on the highway when I can peg it at a comfortable 95 and hang out in the left lane. Will need a new bike for that. But I prefer to only worry about what's coming up in front. Not what's on my sides and rear.

Thats absurd for 99% of the posters here.
post #3607 of 4515
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post

Prob a good idea to ride within your limits on the street

But confidence just comes with time and practice.

I go ridiculously easy on the turns because the street is the street, not the track - you simply don't know what's on the street. I've come close to losing my bike on turns due to broken glass, diesel, at least a Super Gulp-sized Slurpee, a puddle of what I still think was maple syrup, and a clear sheet of plastic that was invisible until my front tire touched it. (Funny how after a close call, you always go back and see what the hell it was). Yes, I feel like an idiot poking thru a curve at 20mph or so, but over the years I've had to catch a bike too many times to take a good surface for granted. My lowest, nearly knee-down turns come when I screw up - take a turn a bit too fast and discover it's tighter than I expected. Newbies tend to high-side because it's counter-intuitve to think about pushing the bar down further and staying on the throttle.
post #3608 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

Question for the folks here, would you guys take a 250cc bike on the highway for an extended period of time?

Depends on the highway, depends on the ride. I've got a Honda CBR600RR, CB400T, and NT650. The CB400T, like otc said (he's got one as well), is about 35hp and has a top speed of 99mph; it hits the meat of its torque-band above 5000 rpm. I've ridden it to Milwaukee, but I do that by taking Route 43 way north of Chicago where it merges with I-94, and I can cruise along at 70mph. I'm keeping up with traffic, and if I need some more a (BIG) twist of the wrist will move it along. With an engine this old, living near redline would be foolhardy.

Around town, where commuters are manically driving 80-90mph while texting, shaving and such (yesterday I was behind a guy brushing his teeth - how do you even do that? does he spit in his car?) and the CB400 doesn't do well, lacking the ability to quickly put some room between me and the inattentive. For those situations, the other two are fine - the low-down torque of the NT650 can handle any sane speeds, and the CBR... let's face it, it's untouchable. smile.gif

So, to sum up, I wouldn't take a Misfit on the interstate for an extended trip, but I would take it on county/state roads - which would be more fun/interesting anyway. I haven't taken a motorcycle trip yet where I droned along on the intersate dodging semis and minivans; I use my car for that.
post #3609 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

Yeah, i'm hoping a side effect of the bike is slaying puss, i'm not too worried haha. How is riding in NYC brutal, coming from someone like yourself who has done it?
Thanks man, and absolutely. I'm not a squid.

Question for the folks here, would you guys take a 250cc bike on the highway for an extended period of time?

250cc is fine on the highway, no worse than a 14 second car

Riding in Manhattan just puts you on the super defensive, to the point to me that it's almost not fun. I had an accident with a cab and have had countless close calls with them. I would find a lot to practice skills in and ride super defensively
post #3610 of 4515
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post


250cc is fine on the highway, no worse than a 14 second car

Riding in Manhattan just puts you on the super defensive, to the point to me that it's almost not fun. I had an accident with a cab and have had countless close calls with them. I would find a lot to practice skills in and ride super defensively

 

Your bike makes 70something hp.  You cannot relate.  According to motorcylist.com the Misfit dynoed at almost 12 hp. Almost.  Consider this:  125cc scooters make about same horsepower yet they are not highway legal

 

Cleveland CycleWerks Tha Misfit Dyno

 

 

 

A new rider on NY highways for extended trips on this bike is a recipe for disaster.  I can't imagine being on Grand Central Parkway, FDR, the LIE or Southern State Parkway on a 12 hp vehicle.  Can you imagine crossing the Verrazzano or the George Washington Bridge on that thing?  How about cruising down the Jersey Turnpike or up the NY State Thruway?

 

I understand supporting the young man and all that jazz as I am always one to bring more people into the riding brotherhood but this is rediculous


Edited by Rumpelstiltskin - 9/20/13 at 3:44pm
post #3611 of 4515
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

After doing lots of reading and research, and despite the negativity in this thread, put a deposit on a Cyclewerks Misfit, should be getting it early November.

Going to be my first bike, just completed the MSF course in NY and got my license.

I'll let it be known, a big reason why I chose the bike is because i'm going to be on my fathers insurance, and he wanted me to have a new bike....that and he's putting in $1,200 for it. I'm essentially only paying 2 grand for it.

 

 

When one of my childhood buddies lives in East New York (Brooklyn for non-New Yorkers) decided to buy his first motorcycle I pushed him into looking at this.  You can probably find a brand new 2010 model still sitting in a crate for dirt cheap. My friend decided against it but instead put his g/f on a 9 month weight gain program photo laugh2-smiley_zpsa7ead38c.gif

 

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k176/brotha_bel/bikes/2010-Kawasaki-KLX250SFd_zps1425093a.jpg 


Edited by Rumpelstiltskin - 9/21/13 at 3:14am
post #3612 of 4515
Ooof yea Rumplestiltskin didn't realize it was that underpowered. Well, he should be fine if he stays off of highways and in the "subway zone". Hey, I see folks on Vespas on the bridges and those have like 5HP. So he should be OK off the highways.

It's possible/probable a very used TU250 would have been a better buy. But hey, you live and you learn. Enjoy it
post #3613 of 4515
Speaking of horsepower I got clocked for doing 49 in a 35 yesterday. Cop let me off with a warning. Couldn't believe it.
post #3614 of 4515
I almost want to go and impulse buy a Ninja 300 w ABS. My gut tells me it's the smartest beginner sportbike to buy. And so much cheaper than a Striple
post #3615 of 4515
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

I almost want to go and impulse buy a Ninja 300 w ABS. My gut tells me it's the smartest beginner sportbike to buy. And so much cheaper than a Striple

Smartest beginner bike is a $1500 Ninja 250.....
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