or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Culture › Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto › Motorcycles
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Motorcycles - Page 237

post #3541 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post


Call me a snob, but I don't think I'll ever buy another Japanese (or Asian in general) vehicle.

My eventual goal is to have all European vehicles as well, but my Z & 650 are pretty good for Japanese whips. Definitely like my Z more than wifey's Rabbit

If the Japanese could make cars/bikes that were as good looking and characterful as the Europeans it would kind of be a no brainer. I'm sad Honda dumped its V-engined street bikes for example.
post #3542 of 4527

Japanese are more reliable and the best bang for the buck when it comes to performance but not very trend setting as far as styling i concerned.  Their designers tend to stick with what is safe

 

 

 

post #3543 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post


My eventual goal is to have all European vehicles as well, but my Z & 650 are pretty good for Japanese whips. Definitely like my Z more than wifey's Rabbit

If the Japanese could make cars/bikes that were as good looking and characterful as the Europeans it would kind of be a no brainer. I'm sad Honda dumped its V-engined street bikes for example.

 

Other than 3 series BMWs I have no real preference.  I love Porsche 911s and I love Corvettes but I also have a thing for the  3rd gen. RX-7 and old Toyota Land Cruisers.  Same with bikes.  Italian, British, Japanese, Austrian, German:  just like my ex girlfriends, they are all good with me.  Variety is the spice of life

 

Triumphs are nice and I would buy a 2010 Speed Triple because that bitch is finer than frogs hair. 

 

http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/features/122_1008_triumph_speed_triple_vs_trident_t160/29960689/122_1008_28_o%2B2010_triumph_speed_triple%2Bright_side_view.jpg

 

 

 

sidenote: I stumbled over a spyshot of 2014 Ducati Monster.  Looks like they are going back to water cooled and using a multistrada based 1198cc engine (the one with less maintenance) in it.  And the single sided swingarm stays.  Nice but I stilll prefer the streetfighter's styling

 

http://www.cycleworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Ducati-Monster-Spy-Shot_007.jpg

post #3544 of 4527

I can't remember if I got this link from here, but all this Triumph Street talk...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMq9K20hSsk

 

:drool:

I don't get the twin headlight thing at all; totally ugly to me, especially compared to just a proper single headlamp. :crazy:

 

The ZRX1100 has always appealed to me. They look incredible, but probably way too much motor there for me to handle:

 

 

That chrome tear-drop gauge backer is something I need to look in to...

post #3545 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post
 

 

Other than 3 series BMWs I have no real preference.  I love Porsche 911s and I love Corvettes but I also have a thing for the  3rd gen. RX-7 and old Toyota Land Cruisers.  Same with bikes.  Italian, British, Japanese, Austrian, German:  just like my ex girlfriends, they are all good with me.  Variety is the spice of life

 

Triumphs are nice and I would buy a 2010 Speed Triple because that bitch is finer than frogs hair. 

 

http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/features/122_1008_triumph_speed_triple_vs_trident_t160/29960689/122_1008_28_o%2B2010_triumph_speed_triple%2Bright_side_view.jpg

 

 

 

 

That's the orange. ::sigh:: Yeah, the Speed is a beast but I tell ya, the low slung exhaust is growing on me in Triumph's newer models: lower center of gravity, lighter and less ass heat.

 

But yeah, Japanese vehicles are all about efficiency while European vehicles have, well ... aplomb. After a few years in a Honda followed by a few years in an Audi I can pretty much say that absolutely everything is better about German engineering -- the power, the handling, the lack of road noise, the materials used to construct everything, the contours, the technology, the subtly hidden comfort features... -- everything except one little detail: upkeep. You've got to do regularly scheduled maintenance, you've got to spring for the high-grade fluids and you can't leave any electrical gremlin alone long enough to go looking for friends. So yeah, you spend more on European vehicles and they're not going to be as efficient. But people who own these things are not driven by motives of cost effectiveness. For me, its about falling in love with a machine that was engineered specifically to bring someone pleasure - a machine that I can't imagine being done much better - and then customizing it so it's truly my own. It's like discovering 13.5oz raw White Oak cone milled denim after years of thinking Lucky Brand makes good jeans. There's just no going back.

 

Trini knows what I'm talkin' about.

 

Life's too short, gentlemen. Too short.

post #3546 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

That's the orange. ::sigh:: Yeah, the Speed is a beast but I tell ya, the low slung exhaust is growing on me in Triumph's newer models: lower center of gravity, lighter and less ass heat.

But yeah, Japanese vehicles are all about efficiency while European vehicles have, well ... aplomb. After a few years in a Honda followed by a few years in an Audi I can pretty much say that absolutely everything is better about German engineering -- the power, the handling, the lack of road noise, the materials used to construct everything, the contours, the technology, the subtly hidden comfort features... -- everything except one little detail: upkeep. You've got to do regularly scheduled maintenance, you've got to spring for the high-grade fluids and you can't leave any electrical gremlin alone long enough to go looking for friends. So yeah, you spend more on European vehicles and they're not going to be as efficient. But people who own these things are not driven by motives of cost effectiveness. For me, its about falling in love with a machine that was engineered specifically to bring someone pleasure - a machine that I can't imagine being done much better - and then customizing it so it's truly my own. It's like discovering 13.5oz raw White Oak cone milled denim after years of thinking Lucky Brand makes good jeans. There's just no going back.

Trini knows what I'm talkin' about.

Life's too short, gentlemen. Too short.

The low exhaust is one of the reasons I love the Buell (that and I like the belt drive for the low maintenance - I rather ride than being doing maintenance). As for the cars, I hear you. I bought a VW a year ago, and it has seems like it always has some electrical gremlin, but when I close the door and drive and don't have to hear a damn thing outside the car, it is just bliss.
post #3547 of 4527

I would rather own any of these over anything comparable from Germany: Miata, RX-7, BRZ/FRS, MR2, NSX, ITR, S2k.

 

The materials quality isn't up to snuff, but the ergonomics are dialed in many of those cars, which is much more important IMO.

 

Hell, the 1st gen Insight blows my mind. Aluminum chassis and body in an economy car? Are you kidding me? That thing is an amazing engineering feat given the price of the vehicle and its performance.

 

The Japanese and Americans file more automotive patents than Germany.

 

If anything, Mclaren is the pinnacle, to me.

 

I have never been enamored with the Audi's and BMW's I've driven. Porsche is a different story, but their interior quality is lacking. Audi and Mercedes interiors are top rate, but you certainly pay for it.

 

Anything much more than 3,000 lbs has too much lag in the transient dynamics IMO.

 

I have no idea what all this translates to in production motorcycles. Ducati wins a lot of manufacturers Championships, but Italians and Germans do so in F1, too; doesn't necessarily translate to the best production road vehicle.

 

:lurk::lurk::lurk::lurk::lurk: 

post #3548 of 4527
After doing lots of reading and research, and despite the negativity in this thread, put a deposit on a Cyclewerks Misfit, should be getting it early November.

Going to be my first bike, just completed the MSF course in NY and got my license.

I'll let it be known, a big reason why I chose the bike is because i'm going to be on my fathers insurance, and he wanted me to have a new bike....that and he's putting in $1,200 for it. I'm essentially only paying 2 grand for it.
post #3549 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

After doing lots of reading and research, and despite the negativity in this thread, put a deposit on a Cyclewerks Misfit, should be getting it early November.

Going to be my first bike, just completed the MSF course in NY and got my license.

I'll let it be known, a big reason why I chose the bike is because i'm going to be on my fathers insurance, and he wanted me to have a new bike....that and he's putting in $1,200 for it. I'm essentially only paying 2 grand for it.

Nice

Buy 2 helmets, you are going to crush so much punani

Just get a couple thousand miles down first... learning in NYC is fucking brutal.
post #3550 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post
 

Hell, the 1st gen Insight blows my mind. Aluminum chassis and body in an economy car? Are you kidding me? That thing is an amazing engineering feat given the price of the vehicle and its performance.

 

The Japanese and Americans file more automotive patents than Germany.

 

If anything, Mclaren is the pinnacle, to me.

 

 

Yeah the Insight was a marvel of engineering. But as a drivable automobile it was.... eh. Sure did love seeing how many MPG it got going down a hill though! People who try to save the world by driving this or that are lame. It's like "oh you drive a Prius? Do you know the heinous chemicals that go into the engine give it a higher carbon footprint than a Ford F-150 until you've driven it more than 100,000 miles?"

 

And yeah. Mclaren is tits. While we're at it, let's compare Ford to Saleen...

post #3551 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

After doing lots of reading and research, and despite the negativity in this thread, put a deposit on a Cyclewerks Misfit, should be getting it early November.

Going to be my first bike, just completed the MSF course in NY and got my license.

I'll let it be known, a big reason why I chose the bike is because i'm going to be on my fathers insurance, and he wanted me to have a new bike....that and he's putting in $1,200 for it. I'm essentially only paying 2 grand for it.

 

 

 

Good for you buddy. Just start getting miles under your belt. And for chrissake wear full gear for as long as you can bear it.

post #3552 of 4527

None of the current Japanese bikes has any character or soul...well other than the VMax and that isn't my kind of bike.  Now some older bikes from the 80s and the 70s have character but nothing in the past 10 years has any.  Souless efficient machines.  The last Japanese sportbike with soul was the RC51 IMHO and they stopped making that in 04 or 05.

post #3553 of 4527
Any Harley guys here? I was at the dealership to try some of their bikes.

All the Dyna's too tall for me my legs can hardly touch the ground. The sportster Forty eight with 1200 engine fit me very well and cost about 10k. Also they have a Softtail Slim. Really perfect but that thing is about 17k holy shit I don't want to spend that much.

So right now my only options are Sportster or Softail used. As I will ride it going to school sometimes, a Softail would be "too much" for me? I'm 5'8'' and pretty young.

A friend of mine has a V rod that thing is fast as fuck.
post #3554 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post
 

People who try to save the world by driving this or that are lame.

 

I wanted one just so it wouldnt rust away in Michigan like everything else :lol:

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post
 

None of the current Japanese bikes has any character or soul...well other than the VMax and that isn't my kind of bike.  Now some older bikes from the 80s and the 70s have character but nothing in the past 10 years has any.  Souless efficient machines.  The last Japanese sportbike with soul was the RC51 IMHO and they stopped making that in 04 or 05.

 

Define what character or soul means to you.

 

Not keen on the CB1100? Upcoming FZ-09?

post #3555 of 4527
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

I would rather own any of these over anything comparable from Germany: Miata, RX-7, BRZ/FRS, MR2, NSX, ITR, S2k.

The materials quality isn't up to snuff, but the ergonomics are dialed in many of those cars, which is much more important IMO.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Hell, the 1st gen Insight blows my mind. Aluminum chassis and body in an economy car? Are you kidding me? That thing is an amazing engineering feat given the price of the vehicle and its performance.

The Japanese and Americans file more automotive patents than Germany.

If anything, Mclaren is the pinnacle, to me.

I have never been enamored with the Audi's and BMW's I've driven. Porsche is a different story, but their interior quality is lacking. Audi and Mercedes interiors are top rate, but you certainly pay for it.

Anything much more than 3,000 lbs has too much lag in the transient dynamics IMO.

I have no idea what all this translates to in production motorcycles. Ducati wins a lot of manufacturers Championships, but Italians and Germans do so in F1, too; doesn't necessarily translate to the best production road vehicle.

lurker%5B1%5D.giflurker%5B1%5D.giflurker%5B1%5D.giflurker%5B1%5D.giflurker%5B1%5D.gif 

I do believe there is a glaring omission from your list.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
Styleforum › Forums › Culture › Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto › Motorcycles