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post #3526 of 4723
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Street Triple or Speed Triple? I wouldn't mind taking both for a spin, but I hear the Street is missing the midrange power.

Pardon my ignorance but what's the key defining characteristic that distinguishes one from the other?
post #3527 of 4723
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

Pardon my ignorance but what's the key defining characteristic that distinguishes one from the other?

Displacement.
post #3528 of 4723
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post


Street Triple or Speed Triple? I wouldn't mind taking both for a spin, but I hear the Street is missing the midrange power.

 

It's all a matter of perspective.  If you are used to riding 600 i-4's, the street will have a very strong midrange.  If you are coming from 750 or larger twins, it will feel wanting

 

 

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Pardon my ignorance but what's the key defining characteristic that distinguishes one from the other?

 

In terms of appearance?  Single sided swingarm on the speed.  In terms of rideability?  The street is a naked Daytona 675 and feels/rides like a sportbike while the big brother is softer, more laidback and cushy.

post #3529 of 4723
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post


Street Triple or Speed Triple? I wouldn't mind taking both for a spin, but I hear the Street is missing the midrange power.

 

I'm all about the Street. I got into riding in my late 20s, so I never got wrapped up in that whole "gotta have a liter bike" mentality. I just don't give a shit. Give me something with great handling and a comfortable ride that I can wring the hell out of while staying inside my skill level. If I ever do buy something sporty over 1000cc, I'm going straight to an S1000RR or maybe an MV. The speed is what, a 1050cc? Frankly, I'm nowhere near the skill level to justify that.

 

Didn't someone wise say it's way harder to be an old rider than a big-bike rider? :teach:

 

A stroked 3 cylinder 675 with decent low end torque and a smooth-as-butter power curve sounds perfect to me.  It's 100lbs lighter than the Speed with a slightly smaller profile, so it can be the hot knife that cuts through the butter of Boston traffic. I guess with the smaller engine it will be a bit more revvy than the Speed, but that just makes it all the more fun to wring out that power. Higher peak revs mean less low-speed jumpiness. And at this stage in my riding, I don't really need more than 105bhp (which you can boost by around 20hp with mods and a new fuel map if you want).

 

Maybe it's not the prettiest naked bike on the market. But that's really the only downside I can see. Other than that, I'm pretty sure that - if you get the R version with Ohlins and Brembos, an Arrow 3:1 exhaust, a new fuel map, frame sliders and a fly screen - it's pretty much the perfect all-around naked bike.

 

If the looks bug me too much, maybe I'll paint it orange. ::shrug::


Edited by BostonHedonist - 9/17/13 at 8:38am
post #3530 of 4723
IDK I def won't turn torque away if it doesn't affect the handling.

Even if it does... meh... I would 2-up the shit out of something like a Bandit 1200. Stump puller

The Street has been repeatedly regarded as one of the best... street... bikes of all time though; Speed not so much. So there's that too....

Can't go wrong either way I guess.
post #3531 of 4723

I'd retrofit the old round lights and take off those angular monstrosities.  It is supposed to be an easy swap

post #3532 of 4723
I hear you guys on the Street. I'd love to try both. I love my Buell Lightning CityX. I like street bikes better than sport bikes. One of the things I don't like about either the Speed or Street is the seemingly super-high exhaust, but I guess you can always get an aftermarket.
post #3533 of 4723
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Even if it does... meh... I would 2-up the shit out of something like a Bandit 1200. Stump puller

 

 

 

Call me a snob, but I don't think I'll ever buy another Japanese (or Asian in general) vehicle.

post #3534 of 4723
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Call me a snob, but I don't think I'll ever buy another Japanese (or Asian in general) vehicle.

 

Lol, my preference is for American, but I would and do buy Japanese over European all day every day; too funny how we have our own biases and preferences.

post #3535 of 4723
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Call me a snob, but I don't think I'll ever buy another Japanese (or Asian in general) vehicle.

My eventual goal is to have all European vehicles as well, but my Z & 650 are pretty good for Japanese whips. Definitely like my Z more than wifey's Rabbit

If the Japanese could make cars/bikes that were as good looking and characterful as the Europeans it would kind of be a no brainer. I'm sad Honda dumped its V-engined street bikes for example.
post #3536 of 4723

Japanese are more reliable and the best bang for the buck when it comes to performance but not very trend setting as far as styling i concerned.  Their designers tend to stick with what is safe

 

 

 

post #3537 of 4723
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My eventual goal is to have all European vehicles as well, but my Z & 650 are pretty good for Japanese whips. Definitely like my Z more than wifey's Rabbit

If the Japanese could make cars/bikes that were as good looking and characterful as the Europeans it would kind of be a no brainer. I'm sad Honda dumped its V-engined street bikes for example.

 

Other than 3 series BMWs I have no real preference.  I love Porsche 911s and I love Corvettes but I also have a thing for the  3rd gen. RX-7 and old Toyota Land Cruisers.  Same with bikes.  Italian, British, Japanese, Austrian, German:  just like my ex girlfriends, they are all good with me.  Variety is the spice of life

 

Triumphs are nice and I would buy a 2010 Speed Triple because that bitch is finer than frogs hair. 

 

http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/features/122_1008_triumph_speed_triple_vs_trident_t160/29960689/122_1008_28_o%2B2010_triumph_speed_triple%2Bright_side_view.jpg

 

 

 

sidenote: I stumbled over a spyshot of 2014 Ducati Monster.  Looks like they are going back to water cooled and using a multistrada based 1198cc engine (the one with less maintenance) in it.  And the single sided swingarm stays.  Nice but I stilll prefer the streetfighter's styling

 

http://www.cycleworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Ducati-Monster-Spy-Shot_007.jpg

post #3538 of 4723

I can't remember if I got this link from here, but all this Triumph Street talk...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMq9K20hSsk

 

:drool:

I don't get the twin headlight thing at all; totally ugly to me, especially compared to just a proper single headlamp. :crazy:

 

The ZRX1100 has always appealed to me. They look incredible, but probably way too much motor there for me to handle:

 

 

That chrome tear-drop gauge backer is something I need to look in to...

post #3539 of 4723
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Other than 3 series BMWs I have no real preference.  I love Porsche 911s and I love Corvettes but I also have a thing for the  3rd gen. RX-7 and old Toyota Land Cruisers.  Same with bikes.  Italian, British, Japanese, Austrian, German:  just like my ex girlfriends, they are all good with me.  Variety is the spice of life

 

Triumphs are nice and I would buy a 2010 Speed Triple because that bitch is finer than frogs hair. 

 

http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/features/122_1008_triumph_speed_triple_vs_trident_t160/29960689/122_1008_28_o%2B2010_triumph_speed_triple%2Bright_side_view.jpg

 

 

 

 

That's the orange. ::sigh:: Yeah, the Speed is a beast but I tell ya, the low slung exhaust is growing on me in Triumph's newer models: lower center of gravity, lighter and less ass heat.

 

But yeah, Japanese vehicles are all about efficiency while European vehicles have, well ... aplomb. After a few years in a Honda followed by a few years in an Audi I can pretty much say that absolutely everything is better about German engineering -- the power, the handling, the lack of road noise, the materials used to construct everything, the contours, the technology, the subtly hidden comfort features... -- everything except one little detail: upkeep. You've got to do regularly scheduled maintenance, you've got to spring for the high-grade fluids and you can't leave any electrical gremlin alone long enough to go looking for friends. So yeah, you spend more on European vehicles and they're not going to be as efficient. But people who own these things are not driven by motives of cost effectiveness. For me, its about falling in love with a machine that was engineered specifically to bring someone pleasure - a machine that I can't imagine being done much better - and then customizing it so it's truly my own. It's like discovering 13.5oz raw White Oak cone milled denim after years of thinking Lucky Brand makes good jeans. There's just no going back.

 

Trini knows what I'm talkin' about.

 

Life's too short, gentlemen. Too short.

post #3540 of 4723
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That's the orange. ::sigh:: Yeah, the Speed is a beast but I tell ya, the low slung exhaust is growing on me in Triumph's newer models: lower center of gravity, lighter and less ass heat.

But yeah, Japanese vehicles are all about efficiency while European vehicles have, well ... aplomb. After a few years in a Honda followed by a few years in an Audi I can pretty much say that absolutely everything is better about German engineering -- the power, the handling, the lack of road noise, the materials used to construct everything, the contours, the technology, the subtly hidden comfort features... -- everything except one little detail: upkeep. You've got to do regularly scheduled maintenance, you've got to spring for the high-grade fluids and you can't leave any electrical gremlin alone long enough to go looking for friends. So yeah, you spend more on European vehicles and they're not going to be as efficient. But people who own these things are not driven by motives of cost effectiveness. For me, its about falling in love with a machine that was engineered specifically to bring someone pleasure - a machine that I can't imagine being done much better - and then customizing it so it's truly my own. It's like discovering 13.5oz raw White Oak cone milled denim after years of thinking Lucky Brand makes good jeans. There's just no going back.

Trini knows what I'm talkin' about.

Life's too short, gentlemen. Too short.

The low exhaust is one of the reasons I love the Buell (that and I like the belt drive for the low maintenance - I rather ride than being doing maintenance). As for the cars, I hear you. I bought a VW a year ago, and it has seems like it always has some electrical gremlin, but when I close the door and drive and don't have to hear a damn thing outside the car, it is just bliss.
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