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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post

It all depends on what your personality is like. If you are 16-24 or so and like to speed a lot in a car and generally weave through traffic, then (1) don't get a bike because you are an asshole...

 

I lol'ed.

 

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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post

I wouldn't buy a fully-faired bike because bike plastic is expensive.
 
So true.

 

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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I think that what most people are saying is that if the end goal is track riding a super sport bike like that, then a ninja 250 is going to make you a better rider for that style of bike. 

 

By that logic, a 2-stroke is worth a look.

post #3137 of 4359
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I think its true that you don't *need* to start out on a 250 (my bike is a 400...although I suspect a new ninja 250 is 10x faster than a 30-year-old 400). But Most people would agree that a something like a CBR600 or equivalent is not a great bike to learn on.

I think that what most people are saying is that if the end goal is track riding a super sport bike like that, then a ninja 250 is going to make you a better rider for that style of bike. and 250 to 600 is probably an easier and cheaper upgrade path than having an SV650 or CBR500, deciding it doesn't have quite enough power on the track, and then making a smaller scale upgrade to a much higher revving bike.

Agreed. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never been at a track day and said "You know what the new guy needs? More horsepower." More common is some poor rookie in a 911 or Corvette frustrated because people in Miatas are passing him. I don't think the cost to transition from a Ninja 250 or CBR250R to, say, a CBR600RR would be all that significant, and would definitely be worth it.
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Originally Posted by epb View Post

Agreed. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never been at a track day and said "You know what the new guy needs? More horsepower." More common is some poor rookie in a 911 or Corvette frustrated because people in Miatas are passing him. I don't think the cost to transition from a Ninja 250 or CBR250R to, say, a CBR600RR would be all that significant, and would definitely be worth it.

This is exactly right at the track, and maybe even more so for motorcycles.
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I like their advice about practice. With cars, people get their permit as soon as possible, practice driving at every opportunity annoying their parents endlessly, then finally take the test as buy a beater that can barely get out of its own way.

With motorcycles in the US, people get their permit, take a safety course that usually gets them their license after about 12 hours of riding, and get a bike that will leave most cars in its dust (my 25 year-old Honda will do 0-60 in 3.8secs - and is considered slow). And off they go to hit the interstate and see what that baby will do. The idea of practicing skills in the real world and building up miles gradually is rarely mentioned - people count themselves successful good riders if they simply come home alive.

Speaking of which, also read "Sweat or Bleed."
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That Rideapart blog is very well done. Are there others out there of similar quality?
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This is a decent video

 

http://fs7.motosport.com/is/image/Motosport/DVD-ATOTW-02_is?$product_large_1000$
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*COUGHvideoCOUGH*

 

*COUGHsag adjustmentCOUGH*

post #3143 of 4359
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

Anyone have experience with the BMW City or Summer pants?

I'm also curious about these - the information on sizing is amazingly vague, so I'm reluctant to order a pair without some input from actual owners.
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I want to take a poll. How many CCs were everyone's first bikes?

I started on an 800cc Triumph, which I probably wouldn't recommend due to a slower learning curve that comes with a larger machine. But I did my time in parking lots, took it very slow and was ultimately happy with not having to upgrade right away.
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

I want to take a poll. How many CCs were everyone's first bikes?
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As a kid: 70

25 years later as an adult: 1000
post #3146 of 4359
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Originally Posted by epb View Post

I'm also curious about these - the information on sizing is amazingly vague, so I'm reluctant to order a pair without some input from actual owners.

I asked about these on SF a couple years back. They seem like pretty nice pants, although I was researching them again a month or two ago. Looks like everyone is now selling the "City Pant 3" and the consensus seems to be that quality fell down from the earlier version.
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500cc
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185cc scooter ---> 865cc motorcycle.

Also, today was day one of airbox removal. MOTHERFUCK stripped screws. I had at least 2 today. I got as far as disconnecting the airbox from the bike. I just need to physically get it out. I'm probably gonna cut it into pieces because I don't think removing the rear tire is something I'm up for.
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

I want to take a poll. How many CCs were everyone's first bikes?

Mine was 400cc. I wanted a CB175 back when I started, but I was forced into a larger bike because my uncle (who was teaching me to ride) believed anything less that 750cc would get you run over. A common sentiment in America during the 1970s - big engines saved lives! I only got a smaller bike because none of them were willing to pay the cost difference for a larger one, but I was moved up because I stupidly told them how much money I actually had, so I was pushed into the largest displacement I could afford. Another sign of the times: all the safety talk was limited to displacement - none of the adults involved cared if I got a helmet, gloves, boots, or motorcycle jacket. facepalm.gif
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People need to specify what kind of bike it was too. 600ccs can be anywhere from 40 to 100HP

I started on a Ninja 650R (649ccs, ~70HP). I would put it just on the outskirts of good to start on. ~2 years in I love it and don't want too much more for the street. First 6 months I was overwhelmed though to be fair I did learn to ride in NYC. Out in regular country you might be able to get away with it.
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