Motorcycles - Page 151
Let me rephrase concerning the apparel. I'll throw all concerns out the door, creating a coherent looks, in regard to color, while a nice thought would be difficult to achieve without all black. So that is a ridiculous question. Perhaps I can achieve continuity in regard to naked bike apparel.
There are elements of sport with elements of sport racing gear. I have with red / white Sidi Vortice boots. I have been going focusing on visilbility; a white helmet is being acquired this season. Back to getting solid gear. Would you end up with black leathers for one of those Roland jackets? I think Dainese black leathers would be the most likely item to get.
How much safety am I sacrificing with a Roland jacket with Dainese pants versus a track suit. The concern with the a Roland + leather pant combo being the inability to zip together the garments.
I am not sure anyone on here can answer this question since it is a function of your own risk preferences, as well as your riding style and how you approach riding. If you are a conservative rider who obeys speed limits; doesn't engage in risky behavior while riding (tailgating, drinking, racing), and takes refresher courses from MSF on a fairly regular basis, then I myself would be comfortable with the RSD jacket and a pair of jeans. However, your response to all of the above may very well mean that nothing short of parking your bike in the garage and not riding at all will reduce your risks to an acceptable level. I am not trying to be glib or unhelpful. I only mean to say that the gear you deem appopriate will be a function of many important factors.
Although a track suit would be the ultimate in protection I think one has to weigh that against practicality and ones riding style. If you like going fast through the twists then why not? If you are running errands and such then it just becomes a hassle.
At a minimum I wear a leather jacket or kevlar mesh jacket with boots, helmet, gloves and jeans. If I'm spending the day burning up the Texas Hill Country then I also wear my leather race pants.
Jeans are really no kind of protection. They'll disintegrate even in a low speed get off.
I kind of like the look of these.
Edited by Texastyle - 7/23/12 at 11:17pm
I've tried on those Bell Custom 500 helmets. I don't think you can do better than those and they do have the low profile i.e. no mushroom head. A lot of those 3/4 retro helmets (like Biltwell) are non DOT approved novelty helmets which are useless as far as offering any kind of protection. The Bell helmets are DOT certified.
That's great to hear. I have a 3/4 from BILT and it is absolutely terrible, so I'm glad that Bell should have a bit slimmer of a profile and give a decent amount of protection.
Edited by Texastyle - 7/23/12 at 11:18pm
FWIW, I have 5 or 6 helmets kicking around, 3 of which are the Bell 3/4 helmet you posted, and I wear those more than any other. I have worn Fulmer and Shoei helmets in the past, but always came back to Bell for the fit and design.
Do you guys ever interact with the drivers around you? I'm usually not the type to mouth off to people when I'm on the bike, but some guy really ticked me off today. I was taking a curve in the highway at around 65 (the speed limit) and he decides to speed up and cut RIGHT in front of me. He was literally within 8 inches of my front tire and then decelerated down to where I had to slam on the breaks. He then decides to get back in his lane and look at me like I'm the asshole. I told him what he could do with himself and made some hand gestures which he promptly returned. He then pulls up next to me again and starts mouthing off and I really let him have it. The weird thing is that he then speeds up to where a cop is pulled over on the road (he was in the process of pulling someone else over) and parks next to the cop. I'm guessing he was trying to tattle on me. I just hate Houston drivers
Also, while on the way home I'm just driving in a straight line and about to stop at a stoplight while some guy in a truck drives by me and gives me a jerking off hand gesture and speeds off. I guess there are just some jerks out there.
I haven't had to talk back to anyone yet. But I don't go on the highway much, unless I'm in a hurry to get home from wherever the back roads took me. Most of the time if someone is at risk of pissing me off, I'll spot it ahead of time and open it up until they're long gone. Since I ride an 800cc cruiser, I can't really do that as well on the freeway. Takes me some steady throttle even to get to 85. Without the ability to get the hell away, I just stay away in the first place. This may change after I remove my airbox, get new pipes and rejet the carbs. Another 15hp will be just what I need.
But yeah, most people in general suck. Treat the cages as obsticles and enjoy your ride. Forget about the idiots inside them.
Oh yeah and here's my personal "Danger Factor" list, updated from the old Harley guy who originally gave it to me. More than 2 factors present, proceed with extreme caution.
1) White hair
2) White car
4) Female Driver
6) Big hat
7) Something un-P.C. that I can't really say ^.^
I like this jacket, too. I'm on the fence as to weather it would be a coherent and complement Sidi boots. (In reality, it is only motosuits that would be coherent).
I posted earlier about getting the Spidi S/S windsuit (track ready) or the Roland jacket. What pants would y'all wear with a Roland jacket. If it helps, I have a ZRX1100 (in purple, green, and white).
On a sport bike, I don't know that the Roland Sands would be the best choice; it's just not very, well, sporty. It's a cafe racer style jacket with heavy leather but light armor. I wouldn't take it anywhere near an actual track, or put it on a bike that's going faster than highway cruising speeds (and if you're not doing either, why the hell own a sport bike). That jacket looks best on zippy around-town bikes with custom mods. For pants, I wear jeans or casual chinos mostly. When I have some extra cash that isn't going into bike mods, I'll probably pick up some kevlar reinforced jeans with a little knee protection for my 200 mile weekend rides.
That's what I'd get except the inseam seems a bit long. If only they had it shorter. There's also Draggin Jeans and some other companies. But most kevlar moto jeans are like, obviously moto jeans.
The best looking by far are these selvedge kevlar moto jeans from england: www.maplejeans.com
The company just launched last month. They are ridiculously expensive.
I guess it's settled then. I just need to figure out what color to get... first world problems.
Boston, those maple jeans sure do look nice.
Last week had some girls follow me in their car taking pictures on their phone. Wave for them to follow me into a parking lot so I could talk to them but they didn't.
But the most interaction from drivers is to tell me that one of my headlights are out or one of my bulbs is brighter than the other.
Usually I just say "oh I know, thank you!" or "Will get it fix, thanks!" rather than explain to them that one is my high beam and the other is low beam.
I agree with John Doe - I wouldn't ride in a jacket without armor. Granted, all jackets with armor almost inevitably look like shit, but that is a different story. We made a horsehide jacket for a friend with slimline dilitant foam armor (back/kidneys, forearms and elbows, shoulders) and you can hardly tell it's armored, and he wears the jacket casually without armor and looks great too. We stole some adhesive seam taping from a Dainese factory and used it in this jacket and made the lining and pocketbags of mesh, so that when the pockets are unzipped open he gets some ventilation. The pad compartments are all custom fitted to the pads and closed with velcro so that they don't squirm. Fun project. (he rides a Royal Enfield with a sidecar normally, the Honda was his old beater bike. We made this jacket so that it sort of matched the Enfield in aesthetics)
so nice. do you mind my asking how much this ended up costing?
In my experience, the percentage of bikes with douchebag riders is far greater than the percentage of cars with douchebag drivers.
See, it's not the general level of douchebaggery that worries me, it is the general level of skill and care displayed by the two populations. Every other car I pass (whether on my bike or in my car) contains a driver texting, dialing a phone or talking on a phone. Drivers routinely pull out in front of me, whether I am in a car or bike, causing me to have to swerve to avoid or hit my brakes. I don't mind a douchebag as long as he is careful. I do mind the precipitous decline in the care taken when the average American driver gets behind the wheel of their cars.