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post #2146 of 4345
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Originally Posted by John Doe View Post

That is a nice looking jacket however it is not made for use as a real motorcycle jacket. It appears to be lacking in armor, the leather is probably not thick enough nor the stitching strong enough to offer any real protection in a get off. It's called a fashion jacket and a recreation of a motorcycle jacket; it is not a real motorcycle jacket.

lol, how do you define a "real" motorcycle jacket?
post #2147 of 4345
A real motorcycle jacket is constructed to protect the rider in case of a crash or laydown. It is made of thicker, stiffer leather and contains armor which all cause the unfortunate wearer to look less slender and waifish, thus spoiling photo opportunities.

A motorcycle-style (fashion leather) jacket is made to make the rider look good while posing on or near the bike.
post #2148 of 4345
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Originally Posted by gnatty8 View Post

lol, how do you define a "real" motorcycle jacket?

CE rated armor. 1.2 mm thick leather. Fasteners on wrist and neck closure. Double stitched seams. Interior pocket for back protector.

When you fall onto concrete at 60 mph, your elbow will thank you for wearing armor.
post #2149 of 4345
Yeah, these are obviously not "real" motorcycle jackets lacking armor as they do..

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post #2150 of 4345
And this is still a "football helmet" but...

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post #2151 of 4345
And this man is holding his engagement ring

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post #2152 of 4345
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Originally Posted by gnatty8 View Post

Yeah, these are obviously not "real" motorcycle jackets lacking armor as they do..
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Quit being such a contrarian. tongue.gif You know perfectly well the difference between the two (at least you should).
post #2153 of 4345
I agree with John Doe - I wouldn't ride in a jacket without armor. Granted, all jackets with armor almost inevitably look like shit, but that is a different story. We made a horsehide jacket for a friend with slimline dilitant foam armor (back/kidneys, forearms and elbows, shoulders) and you can hardly tell it's armored, and he wears the jacket casually without armor and looks great too. We stole some adhesive seam taping from a Dainese factory and used it in this jacket and made the lining and pocketbags of mesh, so that when the pockets are unzipped open he gets some ventilation. The pad compartments are all custom fitted to the pads and closed with velcro so that they don't squirm. Fun project. (he rides a Royal Enfield with a sidecar normally, the Honda was his old beater bike. We made this jacket so that it sort of matched the Enfield in aesthetics)

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post #2154 of 4345
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Originally Posted by John Doe View Post

Texastyle, here is a jacket I came across you might like:
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http://icon1000.com/collection/icon-1000-chapter-jacket/

just looked at the specs on this, we used the same brand of armor. Our leather was 1.6mm (4oz) though, and we use better zippers. haha. All of these commercial jackets have stupid patches and can't decide if they want to look modern or vintage.
post #2155 of 4345
That's a beautiful jacket impolyt!
post #2156 of 4345
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That's a beautiful jacket impolyt!

That's a SICK jacket. Wow, I want to buy one and ride a bike now, lol.

How much would that jacket cost, impolyt?
post #2157 of 4345
Well, we don't have the same horsehide anymore in our current stock, and I didn't have a solid connection on getting the D30 armor since they only sold to commercial enterprises (I could do it now but haven't bothered) - I don't know what the pads would cost at that level. They were pretty expensive when we bought them piecemeal somehow, I think $150 or something for just the 5-piece set. The finished jackets would definitely be about $1000 or more if we were using a good hide of the quality I normally use, like 4oz cow or horse with a good natural-looking chrome tan or dye. That's just what it costs to make something like this, it's basically a regular TOJ leather jacket obviously, with beefed up internal seamwork and then the provisions for the armor, plus the cost of the armor. That jacket above with the patches is skimping hard on the leather quality in order to be sold around $600, just looking at it, it's leather I'd never want to wear, be it on a bike or casually.

I have thought about making more bike jackets since the market is wide open for something like this, and I know exactly how I want to make them (maybe 4 or 5 designs) - but I've been busy doing other stuff, needless to say. redface.gif I might develop the idea later since that one above is a first-time rough draft essentially, and I need to work on my material procurement to do something like this. If someone were to push me along or want to partner up with me to be able to make more, that might be possible too. I am not a rider, so I am not in the community, so to speak. It's just that I've come to this point with making leather jackets the way I wanted them, and this happened to be a logical offshoot when my friend asked me to make a jacket with pads that would match his vintage bike aesthetic (he wears a Ruby helmet, goggles, and some Buzz Rickson's gloves, with brown Moto's boots from Japan) - I knew exactly how I wanted it to be right when he mentioned it to me.
post #2158 of 4345
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

Well, we don't have the same horsehide anymore in our current stock, and I didn't have a solid connection on getting the D30 armor since they only sold to commercial enterprises (I could do it now but haven't bothered) - I don't know what the pads would cost at that level. They were pretty expensive when we bought them piecemeal somehow, I think $150 or something for just the 5-piece set. The finished jackets would definitely be about $1000 or more if we were using a good hide of the quality I normally use, like 4oz cow or horse with a good natural-looking chrome tan or dye. That's just what it costs to make something like this, it's basically a regular TOJ leather jacket obviously, with beefed up internal seamwork and then the provisions for the armor, plus the cost of the armor. That jacket above with the patches is skimping hard on the leather quality in order to be sold around $600, just looking at it, it's leather I'd never want to wear, be it on a bike or casually.
I have thought about making more bike jackets since the market is wide open for something like this, and I know exactly how I want to make them (maybe 4 or 5 designs) - but I've been busy doing other stuff, needless to say. redface.gif I might develop the idea later since that one above is a first-time rough draft essentially, and I need to work on my material procurement to do something like this. If someone were to push me along or want to partner up with me to be able to make more, that might be possible too. I am not a rider, so I am not in the community, so to speak. It's just that I've come to this point with making leather jackets the way I wanted them, and this happened to be a logical offshoot when my friend asked me to make a jacket with pads that would match his vintage bike aesthetic (he wears a Ruby helmet, goggles, and some Buzz Rickson's gloves, with brown Moto's boots from Japan) - I knew exactly how I wanted it to be right when he mentioned it to me.

Dude, honestly, I don't know jack shit about what kinds of motorcycle jackets are out there (in terms of being stylish and functional, like yours), but I think this is your golden business ticket. I bet there's a huge fucking market for these things and you should start crankin 'em out.. I'll invest (a meager sum shog[1].gif)!
post #2159 of 4345
yeah I know, the market is there and my product serves a really great purpose, I just need to get off my ass and do this. redface.gif I don't really need funding so much, just wish I had the exact leather I want to use for a project like this. Horsehide is rare where I source my materials, they almost never get it, and the scale of the project would need more than they ever have anyway.
post #2160 of 4345
That's probably the nicest jacket I've ever seen, great job. I'd buy one at $1000. It's not even that big of a premium over the Dainese stuff.

I bought a bunch of new gear a couple weeks ago, got an Arai Signet Q which is great, a Dainese Shotgun textile which is about 3x the jacket my Alpinestars jacket was, and incredibly cool and comfortable for the summer, and a pair of Dainese Full Metal Pros, which rule as well. Really nice to step up my gear a bit, couldn't be happier with any of it.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-shotgun-jacket

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Going to the Revzilla store in Philly was really nice, as most gear places don't carry the same selection of high end stuff and ordering online is no fun.
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