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post #46 of 79
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Originally Posted by ChicagoGuy View Post
The ring was $7000.

Regardless of opinion and the honorable thing to do, I'm curious what the legal aspects are. She gave it back, thus it's mine.

We still live together (this just happened) but stay in 2 seperate rooms. If I get home tonite and that ring is gone, that's gotta be theft. She can't reclaim ownership.

or so i think

oh i didn't realize you were looking at it from a legal angle. Do you really think she'd take you to court? That would be low.... And it would be difficult to prove what happened either way, wouldn't it? If you're thinking she's gonna actually take it back from you, get a safety deposit box.
post #47 of 79
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Originally Posted by ChicagoGuy View Post
I have a question on this topic:

I was engaged to my fiancée and after a few months, she broke off the engagement. I asked for the ring back from her and she returned it to me.

Now, a few days later, she is demanding it back. I'm under the impression that if no marriage occurred, she broke the engagement, and she willingly returned it, the ring is mine. Do I have anything to worry about here? If so, what is my next plan of action?


I'd like to see a lawyer's opinion on this. When I got divorced, I asked my lawyer if I could get the engagement ring back (cad that I am) and was told that it was a gift and legally belonged to me now ex-wife. It would be interesting to know how your case differs.
post #48 of 79
Where is lawyerdad when you need him?
post #49 of 79
I believe this falls under "Family Law"...what does he specialize in?
post #50 of 79
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Chicago, that ring is yours. period. i go outside and hand somebody a 20 dollar bill because he asked me for it, and then a week later demanding it back, i cant. it is HIS.
it just does not work that way.
post #51 of 79
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Originally Posted by ChicagoGuy View Post
The ring was $7000. Regardless of opinion and the honorable thing to do, I'm curious what the legal aspects are. She gave it back, thus it's mine. We still live together (this just happened) but stay in 2 seperate rooms. If I get home tonite and that ring is gone, that's gotta be theft. She can't reclaim ownership. or so i think
I don't remember where I heard this but I thought there was a case where it was ruled that the engagement ring is given in exchange for her promise to marry you, almost like a contract. If you never got married, then the honorable (and I'm guessing legal) thing to do would be to return the ring to you. For 7k it would be worth consulting a lawyer if she came back for it. Now if you turn around and sell that ring, you'd be lucky to get half back so would you reuse it? I bought my diamond from whiteflash and they had a 1 year buyback/lifetime upgrade program. If you upgrade your diamond, you return the diamond you bought and they apply the full purchase price to the new diamond. If you return the diamond, they give you 70% back in the first year.
post #52 of 79
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I don't remember where I heard this but I thought there was a case where it was ruled that the engagement ring is given in exchange for her promise to marry you, almost like a contract. If you never got married, then the honorable (and I'm guessing legal) thing to do would be to return the ring to you.

For 7k it would be worth consulting a lawyer if she came back for it. Now if you turn around and sell that ring, you'd be lucky to get half back so would you reuse it? I bought my diamond from whiteflash and they had a 1 year buyback/lifetime upgrade program. If you upgrade your diamond, you return the diamond you bought and they apply the full purchase price to the new diamond. If you return the diamond, they give you 70% back in the first year.

Definitely not going to sell it. I'm only 27 years old, I'll need a diamond again the future at some point when I re-get-engaged. So instead of taking a loss and buying ANOTHER one, I'll keep this diamond in the family.

My mother really likes the setting and I'm selling that to her for $1500. It's platinum with 4 small diamonds of it's own.
post #53 of 79
My wife's engagement ring is a sapphire -- we didn't like the diamond politics, though I am getting over it with age.

Our wedding bands were custom made of white gold by some freaky Queen Street jewelry artist.
post #54 of 79
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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
Chicago, that ring is yours. period. i go outside and hand somebody a 20 dollar bill because he asked me for it, and then a week later demanding it back, i cant. it is HIS.
it just does not work that way.

I don't think that example is the same thing, as there is no consideration, and thus you have no enforceable contract.

However about the ring, afaik in almost every state if the wedding doesn't go through the ring goes back to the man (assuming he paid for it). This is as some one else posted, because you are entering in a contract. You give the ring in exchange for the person marrying you. If they break the contract (not wanting to get married) they thereby void the contract, and you get the ring back just like any other voided contract would work out.

I think a more accurate comparison would be if you pay someone to say paint your house. You give him the money and he gives you a promise for said action (painting the house). Let's pretend he wrecks his truck and all his painting supplies are ruined and unable to do the job. He breeched the contract by not performing the promised action (just like breaking the promise to marry) and thus you get your part of the contract back, in this case the money.
post #55 of 79
My wife's engagement ring and wedding band - total 1100 and 400 for a total of 1500.

My wedding band - 15 bucks.
post #56 of 79
Te last time my gf (at the time) was in the states, I took her out to look at diamonds (mostly just at jewlery) to get an idea of what she liked and to educate her on diamond size/cut/clarity/color etc since I have a fair amount of experience in the field. It was a good way to, without totally implying that I was going to buy her a ring, find out what she liked and get her size.

When I bought the ring this spring I went for a very good cut, clean, very (only visible under proper light) slightly blue diamond in a .4k cut. I had it mounted on a 6 prong high mounting with 6 total side stones on a thin elegant ring. That was key for me, it had to be elegant and beautiful just like my future wife. I went on the slightly small size diamond partially because of budget and mostly because she has tiny fingers (size 4.25) so a small diamond will look huge.
post #57 of 79
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Originally Posted by ChicagoGuy View Post
I believe this falls under "Family Law"...what does he specialize in?

law
post #58 of 79
I've started looking at engagement rings and researching diamonds. I am mostly looking to buy a stone right now and having it put in a solitaire setting (something very minimalist). I also am not opposed to buying a "used" diamond.

Used engagement rings are cheaper off of Craigslist, though not as much as I'd like in my area, but I've been reading on here about estate sales. I'd rather get a large stone off a pendant and have it reset. This is probably unrealistic but it is worth a shot. I have been unable to find out any info about estate sales. Where are some good places to look?
post #59 of 79
I got my wife an onion ring. HAHA.



Oh snap:
WU-TANG!!
post #60 of 79
i took jewellery design and than gemmology. so who ever i marry, is gonna get a real nice ring. its going to be done custom on art cam, and with most likely diamond surrouned by natural blue sapphires. the ring may also be mokume design. but either way, im going to make it very unique!
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