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post #31 of 79
I say if you do go diamond, either get a vintage (used? whatever the official term is) or even better, a lab created one. Apparently some lab created ones are so perfect they will actually absorb light, and you can get them in rare colors and in large sizes without spending yourself into the poor house.

Plus that way you can stick it to DeBeers, which is worth doing any time possible.
post #32 of 79
I don't like the idea of spending money on a diamond. It seems like such a waste of money to me. Now before you all jump down my throat, what makes more sense, putting 2.5 months worth of salary towards a downpayment on a house or on a rock? That's 2.5 months SALARY, not your disposable income over 2.5 months, right? For a couple starting out, that's a big chunk of the downpayment on a condo. Which is more important?
post #33 of 79
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Originally Posted by MCsommerreid View Post
I say if you do go diamond, either get a vintage (used? whatever the official term is) or even better, a lab created one. Apparently some lab created ones are so perfect they will actually absorb light, and you can get them in rare colors and in large sizes without spending yourself into the poor house.

Plus that way you can stick it to DeBeers, which is worth doing any time possible.

Even the yellow cultured ones that gemisis makes are quite expensive. I'm not sure if anyone is making the clear ones yet. I'd love to see links.
post #34 of 79
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Originally Posted by dkzzzz View Post
My ex-GF was very upset when one of my friends bought BMW M-3 instead of a 50K diamond ring for his fiancée.
-"How could he do such a stupid thing? The ring is investment (lol-sure it is) , but the car is just a stupid waste of money"...

Needless to say I ran from that money-trap.

Most women view engagement as a rise of their social status. Most of them consider biggest ring in order to "win" in idiotic competition with their girlfriends.
Most women will appraise the ring you gave them to gauge the amount you spent on it, as if it reflects the seriousness of your feelings (more like financial commitment).

I am happy to say that my girl only decided to get a ring as a repellent from single guys. Ring on your finger actually works as repellent only in US.

She hates diamonds and thinks that they are idiotic shiny objects for certain types.

In the land of over generalizations you're emeritus rex.
post #35 of 79
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I don't like the idea of spending money on a diamond. It seems like such a waste of money to me. Now before you all jump down my throat, what makes more sense, putting 2.5 months worth of salary towards a downpayment on a house or on a rock? That's 2.5 months SALARY, not your disposable income over 2.5 months, right? For a couple starting out, that's a big chunk of the downpayment on a condo. Which is more important?

Clearly, you are not getting engaged/married soon.

I got a modest estate (uh, used) stone and two sapphires, had them fixed in a new setting. I DID NOT spend 2.5 months salary. She loved it.
post #36 of 79
I bought my wife's engagement ring and wedding band from Dan Anderson from www.gemologicalservices.com

He makes regular trips to Israel for his diamonds, he is honest, trustworthy , and has serviced me for other diamond jewelry as well as my brother, my two former pastors, and other church friends in their engagement purchases.

He has very competitive prices, knows his diamonds, and is a true gentleman.

I have no gain from endorsing him other than uplifting him. Thanks.
post #37 of 79
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
I don't like the idea of spending money on a diamond. It seems like such a waste of money to me. Now before you all jump down my throat, what makes more sense, putting 2.5 months worth of salary towards a downpayment on a house or on a rock? That's 2.5 months SALARY, not your disposable income over 2.5 months, right? For a couple starting out, that's a big chunk of the downpayment on a condo. Which is more important?

I would add a 30,000+ wedding to that waste-list.
I get nauseous form that mom and pop industry that sprung up around marriage with only objective to make money on people's vanity and stupidity.
post #38 of 79
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
I don't like the idea of spending money on a diamond. It seems like such a waste of money to me. Now before you all jump down my throat, what makes more sense, putting 2.5 months worth of salary towards a downpayment on a house or on a rock? That's 2.5 months SALARY, not your disposable income over 2.5 months, right? For a couple starting out, that's a big chunk of the downpayment on a condo. Which is more important?

It's ok, you don't like girls, remember?

Anyway, does anyone actually follow the sick cartel directive to spend 2 months' salary on a diamond? I sure didn't.
post #39 of 79
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
Even the yellow cultured ones that gemisis makes are quite expensive. I'm not sure if anyone is making the clear ones yet. I'd love to see links.

Expensive, yes, but not as expensive as a natural yellow diamond. According to a quick google search a 0.96 round in fancy yellow of SI1 quality can hit ~$9600. Same thing in lab runs ~$2600 according to a quick google (not gemesis, though).

Chatham is apparently making them in yellow, blue, and pink, but no clear. And they only go as high as VS1, even though Apollo Diamond regularly makes absolutely flawless colorless diamonds in insanely large sizes. I think in June or July of this year Apollo Diamond started making gem grade diamonds, though.

DeBeers can be thanked for a lot of this, both on the social side of propaganda about "fake" diamonds, and suing, purchasing and liquidating companies, and apparently (hearsay) even trying to have a scientist killed. It threatens their monopoly (which is why they can't legally do business in the US), so they try to kill it.
post #40 of 79
I have a question on this topic: I was engaged to my fiancée and after a few months, she broke off the engagement. I asked for the ring back from her and she returned it to me. Now, a few days later, she is demanding it back. I'm under the impression that if no marriage occurred, she broke the engagement, and she willingly returned it, the ring is mine. Do I have anything to worry about here? If so, what is my next plan of action?
post #41 of 79
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Originally Posted by ChicagoGuy View Post
I have a question on this topic:

I was engaged to my fiancée and after a few months, she broke off the engagement. I asked for the ring back from her and she returned it to me.

Now, a few days later, she is demanding it back. I'm under the impression that if no marriage occurred, she broke the engagement, and she willingly returned it, the ring is mine. Do I have anything to worry about here? If so, what is my next plan of action?

Dude, she broke off the engagement, so screw her. Keep the ring. She was right to give it back in the first place imo, but now she's being greedy and selfish considering how much those things cost.
post #42 of 79
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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
Dan Anderson from www.gemologicalservices.com

This looks like a great site and the prices are good. I think I may be doing business with him in the future.
post #43 of 79
The ring was $7000. Regardless of opinion and the honorable thing to do, I'm curious what the legal aspects are. She gave it back, thus it's mine. We still live together (this just happened) but stay in 2 seperate rooms. If I get home tonite and that ring is gone, that's gotta be theft. She can't reclaim ownership. or so i think
post #44 of 79
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
I don't like the idea of spending money on a diamond. It seems like such a waste of money to me. Now before you all jump down my throat, what makes more sense, putting 2.5 months worth of salary towards a downpayment on a house or on a rock? That's 2.5 months SALARY, not your disposable income over 2.5 months, right? For a couple starting out, that's a big chunk of the downpayment on a condo. Which is more important?

This is true, however you're thinking like a man. Women don't usually think like that. They would rather have the diamond now, and save for a house later. A house doesn't always say "he loves me", it say's "he provides for me".
post #45 of 79
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Originally Posted by ChicagoGuy View Post
The ring was $7000.

Regardless of opinion and the honorable thing to do, I'm curious what the legal aspects are. She gave it back, thus it's mine.

We still live together (this just happened) but stay in 2 seperate rooms. If I get home tonite and that ring is gone, that's gotta be theft. She can't reclaim ownership.

or so i think

It sounds like if you have the ring and it was willingly given back, you'll be ok in court. If she has it, it will be a case of 'he said, she said'.
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