Italy Trip. - Page 3

I bet Mariano has his opinions on the matter, too. My dinner suit was the opposite of what he suggested in almost every respect, but we both agree the results are great. I don't think they mess up very often.

No shawl for you? So sad .

But I reiterate: FOOD. Ignore the Naples pessimism above. Even if there were no tailors and you had to negotiate through open sewage to get from place to place, the food would still make the city worth visiting. Matt gave me some fantastic suggestions for when I visited. My wife and I adored each restaurant on the list:

Da Dora
Ciro a Magellina
Rosiello
Europeo di Matozzi

If you can only do one big meal, definitely go to Da Dora. Order whatever seafood they recommend. If seafood isn't your thing--well, consider getting out of Naples--Europeo is a good bet. Best pasta ever.

Milano where are you!!

Honestly yeah, the trip you have planned with Roma and a peppering of neighboring splendor is gonna be fine and everyone will have their main Italian notches. They'll come back at some point for what they missed.

I agree, evening in Siena is beautiful. Everybody in town (and especially the locals) seem to drop everything for a quiet stroll as soon as the sun goes down, its unlike anything I've experienced in other cities.

Far to the north and full of people that speak an Italian barely understood.


Hey, there's no need to redirect your ire. If you feel a tinge of guilt and damaged pride for past actions in a foreign country, keep it to yourself and use it to change for the better. I really don't understand why trying to get people to understand the country is in any way 'douchey'. Your angered reaction to the tongue-in-cheek jokes needs to be in scale with your knowledge of the subject. Drop the pretense.


This is not particular to Siena by any stretch of the imagination.

Do you even know what you're talking about? First of all, even overall skinny Neapolitans tend to have pasta bellies. Second, the locals absolutely douse parmesan on their pasta. You have to know to ask the waiter to bring you your own bowl of it so you can pour it on liberally.

October is a great time weather-wise. I'd recommend Sicily, but if you're w/ first-timers maybe best to stick to must-sees... It would be great to do a mix of seashore/country/ and city.
Cinque Terre, lake district, Milano? Maremma (Tuscan coast) & Firenze? Roma & Umbrian hill towns?

Hey, thanks for proving my point. There's no use explaining to you since you're obviously an expert on this subject.

I foung it significantly different from cities like Paris, Rome, London, NYC, LA, DC.

But I'll admit, I'm not totally cultured on international travel to speak for other cities. It was an observation by my girlfriend who used to live in Italy and in the past 24 months has been to roughly 35 European cities. I'll take her word for it.

I tend to like smaller Italy rather than larger cities.

Ligurian coast is unbeatable, so as skiing and mountain lakes with superb little towns around them in Northern Italy.

Florence over Rome undoubtedly.
Naples is indeed a shithole, no wonder every American-Italian you meet is from that ghetto.

There's nothing tongue-in-cheek in your douchey tone and douchey behaviour. Get a life instead of constantly trying to desperately try to prove you're better than others. Cause you're not - we know it and sadly so do you. Interesting that you immediately identified with the content of my post although I didn't quote or name you...

Why not take what's said at face value instead of reading more into the author than the message? Don't act so insulted.

Why assume you weren't taken at face value and simply deemed wrong?

I'm not insulted at all. Not sure why you think so. There's nothing worth taking in your garbage of a post telling that everyone else is a McTourist while you're a true afficionado of the host country's way of life. It's just pure douchery, nothing else.