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post #1 of 69
6/14/09 at 1:05pm
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post #2 of 69
6/14/09 at 1:23pm
It's almost difficult to believe smoking was even once permitted on airplanes at all.. Then again, I am old enough to remember when malls still had little seating areas with ashtrays where people could sit and smoke whilst resting from their chronic shopping.

The world has become a very anti-septic, over-sterilized, bland place to live..
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post #3 of 69
6/14/09 at 1:30pm
There was nothing better than smoking on an intercontinental flight. There was nothing worse than waking up on that flight after smoking and then breathing that disgusting airplane air. I always felt the need to shave my tongue.
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post #4 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:02pm
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The world has become a very anti-septic, over-sterilized, bland place to live..

Maybe your world...
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post #5 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:10pm
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There was nothing better than smoking on an intercontinental flight.
Because of the length of the flight, or some other reason? The article's author appears to struggle a bit with the concept of causation.
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post #6 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:14pm
Flying is so terrible as it is, I can't even imagine doing it with people smoking around me.
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post #7 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:15pm
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Maybe your world...

Yes, that's right, just my world.. thank you for your contribution..
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post #8 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:17pm
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Because of the length of the flight, or some other reason?

The article's author appears to struggle a bit with the concept of causation.

How so? I thought he made a pretty clear point.
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post #9 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:17pm
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Because of the length of the flight, or some other reason?

I don't know. I was a very young adult when you could still do it, but I think it had to do both with the length of the flight, and the fact that on a flight to Europe it seemed awfully European to be smoking on an airplane.
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post #10 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:20pm
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I remember there were still smoking sections on Air China flights into the mid-90s.

They were more civilized that way.
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post #11 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:25pm
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I don't know. I was a very young adult when you could still do it, but I think it had to do both with the length of the flight, and the fact that on a flight to Europe it seemed awfully European to be smoking on an airplane.

That makes sense. I flew to Europe only a couple of times back then, and didn't smoke, so I lacked that perspective on it.
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post #12 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:26pm
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How so? I thought he made a pretty clear point.
Because the only real argument that can be made from his data is that air filtration standards on planes ought to be better. This problem has no causal link to the banning of smoking, which seems to be the author's real beef.
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post #13 of 69
6/14/09 at 2:30pm
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Because the only real argument that can be made from his data is that air filtration standards on planes ought to be better. This problem has no causal link to the banning of smoking, but that seems to be the author's real beef.

This ^. An argument that can be made that "no causal link" overstates the case historically (accepting as true the article's description of the relevant history), but obviously banning smoking doesn't preclude having better air quality standards (nor does allowing smoking require them).
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post #14 of 69
6/14/09 at 4:16pm
"debbie johnson" can't be a real name.
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post #15 of 69
6/14/09 at 4:25pm
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The world has become a very anti-septic, over-sterilized, bland place to live..

In fact, the article you cite says air cabin air quality is less anti-septic and more compromised.

I suppose you´d rather turn airplanes into flying ash trays again rather than simply use HEPA-standard filters on all aircraft.
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