Irony, and its 'use' on the forum.

[CDFS]

Edit: Link (failed) attemts at irony here, for me to grade. I want to talk with you about that that most nefarious of al conversation techniques, irony. “What is ‘irony’?”, you ask. For the answer, ‘follow’ this link. This technique can IRL be used to convey a ‘hidden’ meaning to words otherwise quite clear. Via ‘tone of voice’ or ‘a look’ it can be made ‘clear’ that what you are saying is not what you (really) mean. In fact oftentimes a person using ‘irony’ means exactly ‘the opposite’ of what he is ‘saying’. This can be quite confusing for the person that ‘irony’ is used ‘on’. Especially if said person is not a member of the ‘in crowd’, but rather a member of the ‘out crowd’, so to speak, while the speaker IS a member (of the in crowd, of course). Irony is in that form often used to ‘widen the gap’ between the said ‘in crowd’ and ‘out crowd’ members. It’s all rather snooty, really. Now, as I ‘said’, this is all IRL. “What about online (OL)?”, you may ask. That’s, actually, a good question. Because that’s where the difficulty lays, with ‘irony’. It’s unclear when it’s used OL and its use is diffuse. I have sometimes tried to use it on this forum, with differing success, I might ‘say’. I think I’ve seen others try to use it on the forum, but you just can’t be sure. Can you? Again, a good question. Yes you can be sure. IF ‘users’ of ‘irony’ are prepared to ‘take’ certain ‘measures'. I am thus prepared and so should YOU be. From now on I’ll try to use one of the following symbols

to denote the ‘use’ of ‘irony’, if any. I will also try and make ‘members’ aware of such symbol(s), by using it as my ‘avator’. With this 'queste' to try to make the 'use' of 'irony' known to a whole 'new' group of members, I'll hope to 'stop' the spread of disambiguity on the forum. Will YOU do the same?* Discuss. *A good question.

 

[robin]

thanks jet

 

[texas_jack]

Originally Posted by robin

LOL

 

[Jekyll]

No.

 

[Thomas]

I use a magnet to detect irony on my computer screen, cause Irony is magnetic. So far my irony detector hasn't found any.

 

[Tck13]

Isn't this why we have smilies?

 

[lakewolf]

Ironic ....
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[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by CDFS

I want to talk with you about that that most nefarious of al conversation techniques, irony.
“What is ‘irony’?”, you ask. For the answer, ‘follow’ this link

I feel like there's a hidden, mocking message here, and I am not in on it, but I found the post interesting none the less.

Which brings up what could be your next topic; sarcasm.

 

[montyharding]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Which brings up what could be your next topic; sarcasm.

Oh really? Must have skipped Pedantry.

 

[MrG]

By definition 2a this thread is ironic. I expected to find something I would be happy to have spend time out of my life to read. However, what actually occurred was the opposite, thus creating incongruity. Hooray for applied knowledge!

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by montyharding

Oh really? Must have skipped Pedantry.

Well played.

 

[LexSenthur]

Irony and ironic are words that I have allowed to fall out of my usage, simply because if I take the time to decide if somethign is ironic, the comedic moment is gone. Best to move on to less played words.

 

[grundletaint]

are you talking about something like ra-iain on a sunny day or a free ride when you've already paid?

 

[CDFS]

Originally Posted by Tck13

Isn't this why we have smilies?
Smilies offer no solution in themselves as they muddle the intentions of the posters. "Is he laughing at me?", is a logical question to ask when somebody posts, for instance this: '

' smiley. This symbol, when known across the board, leaves no room for doubt. <------------------------------------------

Originally Posted by Brogue

There is another approach: http://www.amazon.com/Metapunctuatio.../dp/0595002420
If You were you 'ironic', please make use of the 'irony' symbol (the symbol), at least in this thread. That is actually the same approach. Perhaps the writer makes use of another 'irony' symbol.

Originally Posted by lakewolf

Ironic ....

<---------------- Proper use of a smiley.

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I feel like there's a hidden, mocking message here, and I am not in on it, but I found the post interesting none the less.
That, realy, means a lot to me.

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Which brings up what could be your next topic; sarcasm.
Thank you. I'll think about it. But, 'sarcasm', although related to 'irony' and often created by being 'ironic' is IMO not as difficult to grasp as 'irony'. If not the joke at least the fact that the victim is the butt of a joke is often quite clear. The 'meanness' shines through, IMO, of course.

Originally Posted by grundletaint

are you talking about something like ra-iain on a sunny day or a free ride when you've already paid?
No, that is IMTVE, the concept of 'irony' in the minds of many North Americans, but I call that not "irony', but 'schmirony'.

 

[rach2jlc]

Originally Posted by CDFS

No, that is IMTVE, the concept of 'irony' in the minds of many North Americans, but I call that not "irony', but schmirony.
To me, irony is best typified by our own Cunny, who (ostensibly) has been given male sexual organs, but will sadly never find another human being of either sex who would be willing to put them to any sort of use without a large cash-payment of some kind. And, probably not even then. As dear Coleridge wrote: Girlies, girlies everywhere, And all of them did shriek, Girlies, girlies everywhere, My, what a pathetic freak.