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post #46 of 80
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Originally Posted by kennethpollock
Wow! Last time I was there (2-3 weeks ago) they still had a few Grensons (with French or Henry Maxwell of London labels) in those sizes, at the old $150 price. Even better, they had a number of J&M Handgrades in those sizes for $250; including the "shovel" sole model. You ought to call right away.

Ken, at which store did you see these? I'll be in Atlanta at the end of the month and may stop in.
post #47 of 80
What's the retail on these Grenson Masterpieces?
post #48 of 80
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Originally Posted by thinman
Ken, at which store did you see these? I'll be in Atlanta at the end of the month and may stop in.


They only have very small sizes left. I saw them at at the Piedmont Road store; on the racks. The French Grensons, sold under the name of "Cordonnerie Anglaise" (a famous Paris shop) are made a little differently. I am not sure whether the quality is a bit above or below Grenson Masterpieces, but they seem top-notch.
A few carry the name "Henry Maxwell," the famous London bespoke bootmaker which is now a part of Foster & Son, on Jermyn Street. Apparently Grenson makes all of the Henry Maxwell RTW shoes. Those, like the top-of-line St. James shoes at New & Lingwood (395 pounds), seem more like standard Grenson Masterpieces.
post #49 of 80
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Originally Posted by kennethpollock
Those, like the top-of-line St. James shoes at New & Lingwood (395 pounds), seem more like standard Grenson Masterpieces.
I believe it has been established that the N&L St. James shoes are Grenson Masterpieces (albeit at extortionate prices).
post #50 of 80
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Originally Posted by Dapper Dandy
What's the retail on these Grenson Masterpieces?

I think Paul Stuart sells theirs for around $600. They compare favorably to more expensive shoes, so maybe they are "worth" $700 or $800.
post #51 of 80
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Originally Posted by chorse123
I think Paul Stuart sells theirs for around $600. They compare favorably to more expensive shoes, so maybe they are "worth" $700 or $800.
They're not quite EGs, so I wouldn't inflate their worth above retail. They compare favorably to C&J Handgrades which retail from $400 at Plal to $575 or so at Barneys. The Stuart's Choice shoes at Paul Stuart retail from $550 to $625 or so. I doubt very many of us are shelling out retail for them, so it would be hard to make the case for them being worth $700 or $800.
post #52 of 80
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Originally Posted by Roger
I believe it has been established that the N&L St. James shoes are Grenson Masterpieces (albeit at extortionate prices).


Actually, 395 pounds less 17.5% VAT is about $570.00, a competitive price.
However, a $250 price at Bennie's allows you to get two pairs for that price, have some change, and save by avoiding a trip to London.
post #53 of 80
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Originally Posted by kennethpollock
They only have very small sizes left. I saw them at at the Piedmont Road store; on the racks. The French Grensons, sold under the name of "Cordonnerie Anglaise" (a famous Paris shop) are made a little differently. I am not sure whether the quality is a bit above or below Grenson Masterpieces, but they seem top-notch. A few carry the name "Henry Maxwell," the famous London bespoke bootmaker which is now a part of Foster & Son, on Jermyn Street. Apparently Grenson makes all of the Henry Maxwell RTW shoes. Those, like the top-of-line St. James shoes at New & Lingwood (395 pounds), seem more like standard Grenson Masterpieces.
Thanks Ken, I guess it's unlikely that I'll find a stray pair of size 12D hiding on a back shelf. I know _my_ 12Ds are hard to hide!
post #54 of 80
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Originally Posted by thinman
Thanks Ken, I guess it's unlikely that I'll find a stray pair of size 12D hiding on a back shelf. I know _my_ 12Ds are hard to hide!


It has been a while since I looked at the 12-13s, but I think they had some Grenson patent dress shoes, a Ghillie and 1-2 others (maybe slip-ons) left in those sizes.
post #55 of 80
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Originally Posted by kennethpollock
Actually, 395 pounds less 17.5% VAT is about $570.00, a competitive price.
Competitive with whom?! Add in something on the order of $30 - $40 for shipping, and you're over $600 (and the possibility of duties, although this is hit and miss).

Now compare this with the approximately $400 that PLal charges for a pair of C&J Handgrades (every bit the equal of, if not superior to, Grenson Masterpieces), along with their free or half-price shipping. Or compare with Pediwear's $460 or so for C&J Handgrades, and N&L St. James can be seen to be anything but competitive for online purchasing.
post #56 of 80
Over time, I would say most of my C&Js have held up much better than the Grensons I have, although the Grensons I have from Paul Stuart have held up much better than the Grensons from Bennies. Not sure what this implies as far as quality, just an observation based on personal experience.
post #57 of 80
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance
Over time, I would say most of my C&Js have held up much better than the Grensons I have, although the Grensons I have from Paul Stuart have held up much better than the Grensons from Bennies. Not sure what this implies as far as quality, just an observation based on personal experience.
I'm finding the same thing. I wonder if the Bennie's shoes were stored under less than ideal circumstances for a long time before they were liquidated. The leather on the Grensons I bought from the legendary Paul Stuart sale appears to be in much better condition.
post #58 of 80
Yes, the leather isn't quite the same as the Paul Stuart shoes. My biggest gripe has been the strange way in which the leather sole kind of began detaching in rather large pieces. It wasn't the actual sole, but rather the piece that covered the sole stitching (hope this makes sense). It was alarming the way it came off on a pair of Radley's I bought. I supposed this was somewhat cosmetic, as it didn't appear to effect the shoe in any real way.
post #59 of 80
Is it possible the Grenson's are seconds? The suspicious would think you guys were talking others out of buying a bunch of pairs!
post #60 of 80
I doubt they are seconds, but I couldn't say for sure. Again, I have to concur with PhiloVance that the soles on mine also started peeling off. I posted pictures of it way back when and nightowl asked me to mail them back to him. Whatever he did to them appears to have resolved the issue.

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