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post #1 of 19
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Well, I'm back to school Monday, and just realized that I am in need of a booksack ( my other one is dead :-). ). I need something that isn't too expensive, considering that I'm going to beat it up going to school everday, but I also want something besides a "Jansport". I was thinking about some sort of sachel or messenger bag. What do you guys think? Know of any good ones, nylon vs leather, etc. Thanks, Aaron
post #2 of 19
I bought a nylon prada messenger bag for myself. 2 years ago when i was wearing gap like every other kid a regular backpack did the job, but if you're wearing nice clothes, you look ridiculous carrying a backpack. I don't know what "a lot" means to you but you can get prada messenger bags from here. I still haven't received mine yet but I should be getting it next week. The general consensus of people on this forum was that they were in fact real and not fakes. When I get mine this week I'll be able to confirm if they're real or just really good fakes. I went to Holt Renfrew and saw the exact bag I ordered so that I'd be able to tell if my bag is authentic or not when it arrives.
post #3 of 19
Gee whiz, that's not even mildly pretentious for school.  Think about it: how do you look showing up for class with an CAN$800 + tax nylon bag while others are struggling with student loans and the like?  I know you're not paying anywhere near that price on Ebay, but (1) nobody else knows that and (2) you're still paying a laughable amount for a nylon bag.  It's also not very practical (much like buying LV-monogrammed luggage) in that it's sure to be a target for every thief that sees it. GQgeek, I know you're looking to get into i-banking, and I offer this advice: if and when you interview, people will be much more interested in you - i.e. your personality and your achievements - than whether your suit has a ticket pocket.  Spending a fortune on clothes can't really do much to help you and may in fact backfire severely.  I work in law, not i-banking, but I know many interviewers would be very turned off, consciously or unconsciously, by a candidate fresh out of school who showed up to interview in a cashmere Brioni suit (to the extent that they could recognize it as such).  Realize that most lawyers (and i-bankers.) have mortgages to pay, kids to support, etc. and are at best indifferent when a guy shows up sporting a $4000 suit despite having no job as yet.  I'm not telling you to wear suits from Moores.  I'm telling you to dress for your age, and for your salary (i.e. none at the moment): buy a Canali or a Missoni or whatever and thank your lucky stars you have the moolah to purchase even that.  Realize that i-banking is largely business casual these days - business casual meaning chinos and a buttondown, not a Kiton suit with no tie - whether you're in New York or Toronto (though perhaps not London) and that even those i-bankers wearing suits probably are not sporting Zegna, let alone Brioni, even at fairly senior levels. When you show up for an interview (or for work at any sort of junior level) in a $2000+ suit - often outdressing your interviewers - despite likely owning no house, having no savings, etc. you simply look foolish.
post #4 of 19
Aard, I must side with Mike F, I have a north face backpack, it's Solid black. I wear it everywhere.   It was a hammy-me-down from my little sister. She used it for 2 years in high school, now I have had it through two summer sessions and I plan to have it for years. When I was a baby my dad would put me in a backpack and carry me when he would run. This summer we found the old bag and it also turned out to be a north face. I would say with out a doubt, they are the most durable bag on the market.  Furthermore I like to think that I dress in a stylish way, really preppy. But hey that is me and to each his own. Lastly it's a BAG it purpose it to carry: books, calculator, English book, all that wonderful school stuff.  Not to be an accessory to the "˜runway' Hope this helps, Parsonsdb
post #5 of 19
I have an Arc'Teryx backpack I use everywhere as well. It's massive & made for backpacking, but I can stuff anything (and everything) in there. I can stuff my entire laptop bag in there (a Targus Notepac or whatever their smallest is) and have room to spare. If you're going to be carrying alot of heavy textbooks (more than two or three) I'd definitely recommend a backpack with a hip belt. That way the weight is carried by your hips, not your shoulders (think of a woman's bra, most of the support comes from the underwire, not the shoulder straps.) Hm, maybe that wasn't the best example, but you get the idea If I don't need all the space, I just carry around the laptop bag. It's black, durable, padded, and cheap. Plus it has a lifetime replacement warranty. I wore out the strap on one and Targus sent me a new replacement free of charge. The new one had a better handle too
post #6 of 19
Quite honestly I don't see why you're getting all flustered over how I chose to spend money. I mean, it really doesn't concern you and my posts shouldn't have caused such a big reaction in you. If you want to tell Aaron that a prada messenger bag is too pretentious for school and not to get one then go ahead, but what's the point of proceeding to lecture me when you know nothing of my situation. You might also want to avoid making assumptions about where I get my money and whether I have any savings since you haven't the slightest idea what my financial situation is. Not everyone that attends school is forced to work at Burger King just to make ends meet. Next. Most people probably can't tell a Canali, from a Brioni, from a Zegna, so they won't know what I payed for it and they certainly won't take offense to me wearing a suit which they can't identify. Certainly if the label were plastered on the suit then they might be able to tell, at which point they MIGHT care, but they won't. I've had a lot of dealings with business people of all types and levels of seniority. I've talked to energy people, bankers, people in printing and the list goes on. The one thing the vast majority of them have given me, is not a lecture as you've done, but respect they normally wouldn't dole out to someone my age. They've often commented (usually not directly to me) on how well dressed I am since I obviously present myself a lot better than most kids my age, but beyond that they certainly don't preoccupy themselves with my clothes and how much I spent on them. When they talk to me they get the impression of a young man that's driven, smart as shit, and who can talk about almost anything thanks to a good education and good upbringing. The fact that I present myself well and like expensive clothes has never caused the resentment that it seems to have caused in you. Given the fact that I am buying suits right now to wear to my current job (yes, I have a job AND an income which is far from minimum wage), I don't see why it's a problem for you that I'm asking a couple of questions about whether a particular style, which I personally really like, is appropriate for interviews. The average guy doesn't know sh*t about good clothes (and admittedly doesn't care) and I'm certainly not gonna dress to his standards. And uh, IB isn't quite as casual as you'd like to think. I'm not there yet but I do know people who are. After the tech bubble burst, business casual started to go away. Business casual was just something banks felt forced to follow the crowd on for a short while during the tech boom. It was done in an effort to try and improve job quality for their employees, so that they didn't all jump ship to tech companies, which were all promising to make employees rich with stock options and which allowed employees to wear whatever they wanted. As soon as the bubble burst, the trend started to reverse itself. Business casual is still present, more often during the summers but also on fridays depending on where you're talkign about. Anyway it's irrelevant, you still have to wear suits to interviews. Heh and I really don't know who these companies are selling all their suits to, cause according to you, nobody except maybe CEOs and billionaires, buy nice suits. Here's a little advice for you. Concern yourself less with how much other people make or what they chose to wear. Fine suits, or any item of impeccable craftsmanship, are things a lot of people buy to for their own appreciation. The majority of the population probably couldn't tell the difference between an expensive suit and a cheap one so it's pretty hard to make the argument that we who buy nice suits are doing it solely for the purpose of putting it on display and saying "look at me, I'm the shit cause I'm wearing Brioni." I appreciate the effort and time that goes in to them, but mostly I like the final product. I don't whore to any particular label, I just recognize quality when I see it and that's what I chose to wear. The fact that I chose to dress myself in top quality clothes should be of much less concern to you than it apparently is. Oh btw, I'm getting my BMW next week. Should I get a Honda instead? Anyway, keep the lecturing to yourself. If you want to offer your opinion then fine, it's the internet; but lecture your kids, not me. Parsons doesn't agree with me either but at least he's smart enough to realize "hey that is me and to each his own." Lastly, I hope I don't turn too many people off with the tone of my post, but it kinda pisses me off when people make all kinds of presumptions about me, my motives for dressing and acting a certain way and my financial situation. I pay for my own schooling, I earn the money I spend on clothes and I don't make anywhere close to minimum wage.
post #7 of 19
I don't like backpacks. I used a canvas messenger bag in a dark khaki colour with (indifferent quality) brown leather trim on the front and on the shoulder strap. By Eddie Bauer, actually. It's held up really well. Still looks good, actually. When I started interning, I bought a Coach Diplomat briefcase (basically a copy of the classic Hermes). But I never used it for school. For my girlfriend, I bought a bag from Helmut Lang that was white nylon, and had one big pocket and two pockets that folded over to be the same dimesions as the big pocket. (Making the bag twice as thick.) She likes it. My bag might be a bit conservative/cheap for you, and Kathi's too extroverted/expensive. You might want to look for something by Tumi, or if you want to spend a bit more, maybe John Varvatos or Yohji Yamamoto. Peace, JG
post #8 of 19
GQgeek: 1. You are very defensive for a guy who claims to have nothing to be defensive about. 2. I wasn't lecturing you, but rather offering two opinions: (a) a Prada messenger bag is extremely pretentious as an everyday school bag; (b) if you're looking to work in investment banking, unduly expensive clothing almost certainly will not help you in your job hunt but may well hinder you in it. 3. I'm not "flustered" nor suffering from "resentment." I didn't presume anything about where your money was coming from, nor your motivations for spending it - read my post again. I was trying to offer some friendly advice as someone who has been in a situation remarkably similar to your own. I, like you, favor well-made (and coincidentally expensive) clothing - though not overpriced nylon Prada bags. Prior to and during law school, I also worked and accumulated sizable savings. I've learned, though, that there's something to be said for subtlety, and that one's desire to wear bespoke suits and the like must be tempered with the reality of one's age and social and occupational standing. To put it slightly differently, the fact that I own a Patek Philippe does not mean that it would serve my career (nor my job prospects, in the case of an interview) to wear it to work, at least at my level of seniority. 4. You seem to have a somewhat distorted sense of how investment bankers dress. I work with them regularly. They are, largely, in business casual, at least when I meet them: think chinos, loafers, patterned shirt, and perhaps navy blazer. I'm not talking about Canadian investment bankers, either. 6. "I really don't know who these companies are selling all their suits to, cause according to you, nobody except maybe CEOs and billionaires, buy nice suits." Go talk to a manager at Harry Rosen (or the man himself) and ask who is buying Kiton and Brioni suits. You may be surprised at the answer - firstly, I don't think there's nearly as many people as you think buying, and secondly, I think even most CEOs (at least in Canada) don't bother with the former label. 5. It's great that you've gotten such positive feedback from the people in business that you've met. I wish you every success.
post #9 of 19
I don't know which model he owns but the ones with silver buckles and no logo look pretty classy. One of the zippers inside my Prada Sport messenger bag I use for high school broke off the first day I bought it. Anyways I think it's a very practical and functional bag. There are a ton of pockets and zippers inside. It impresses the girls too but I usually say I got it as a gift since I don't want people to think I would spend $700 on a bag.
post #10 of 19
Ok well for future reference, when you start your post in bold calling something pretentious, it's hard to construe the post as having any positive intentions. Since you're a lawyer, I would have thought that you'd have a better grasp on the subtleties of written language.. I'm going to quote you since you either don't remember what you wrote, or you don't understand the difference between telling and suggesting. "I'm not telling you to wear suits from Moores. I'm telling you to dress for your age, and for your salary (i.e. none at the moment): buy a Canali or a Missoni or whatever and thank your lucky stars you have the moolah to purchase even that." Tell me again how that is a) not lecturing and b) not making assumptions about my income, or lack thereof it. My sense of how investment bankers dress comes directly from I-bankers I know. I have 2 friends that work for Merril Lynch (one in London, the other NY) and my uncle used to work for Goldman in NY until he took a job in oil so that he could have more time to spend with his family. I've have asked them if they still wear suits a lot and their answers were "almost every day." I think I'll take their word for it. Then again they aren't first year analysts either so maybe that's the reason they wear suits. I went and looked it up: Zegna alone had sales of 686 million euros in 2001. Sportswear accounted for 25%, accessories for 15% and fabrics for 15%. 45% of the sales figure was clothing, if 50% of that number is suits, at an avg. price of lets say 2k, that's 77.2k suits a year. That's hardly a small number so I'd guess someone other than top CEOs and billionaires must be wearing them. Anyway, enough of this. I've said what I wanted to say and don't really feel like dragging this out any longer.
post #11 of 19
Pretentious to use designer bags? Why? If you can afford them, why not? As long as you don't flaunt your stuff, who's gonna care? Noone seems to think it's strange to spend thousands on electronic gadgets, but buying a bag for a few hundreds is obviously not something a normal person does?
post #12 of 19
For a book bag for school, I would get nylon or canvas (I'd prefer canvas.)  Your bag is going to get so beat up from all the books you'll be carrying, and from the fact that you'll be carrying it with you everywhere.  When I was in college, my North face backpack suited me just fine, and then I got a Patagonia messenger bag.  If you want some options that are a little more high end that make bags in these materials, try Holland & Holland, Ghurka, Jack Spade, Filson's, or Beretta. I know the Prada bags are popular, and some look pretty good, I guess.  They're just not my style.  It's been a long time since I've seen ones, but the standard black nylon ones are exorbitantly over-priced.  And I just don't think Prada nylon bags look right on guys.  Prada makes nice leather briefcases though for the workplace (my two briefcases are made by Goldpfeil and Tanner Krolle.) A good friend of mine who is a partner at a consulting firm just bought himself a normal messenger bag made out of canvas from Banana (he could care less about brands) and I have to admit, it looks pretty nice. As an aside, in terms of leather, my favorite brands are Seeger, Goldpfeil, Tanner Krolle and Loewe.
post #13 of 19
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You bag is going to get so beat up from all the books you'll be carrying, and from the fact that you'll be carrying it with you everywhere.
Not necessarily. If you have a habit of throwing it to the ground and kicking it across the floor, yes. If you handle your bags instead of manhandling them, no.
post #14 of 19
Yo Aaron Kipling luggage makes great bags, great colors, great styles. Catch one on Ebay you won't get raped for it. My SO gave me one last week filled with *goodies* as a b-2-s gift. FYI really cool, fun and silly stuff from Fred Segal in NYC. Like bodymint, have you seen that yet, it's an oral deodorant. Hah. its working on every part of me. Too sweet. Jas
post #15 of 19
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Not necessarily. If you have a habit of throwing it to the ground and kicking it across the floor, yes. If you handle your bags instead of manhandling them, no.
I was just thinking of all the books and the college lifestyle going from class to class.  You don't have to throw or kick your bag in order for it to get worn out. Plus the original poster said he needed something durable: "I need something that isn't too expensive, considering that I'm going to beat it up going to school everday,..." (original post.)
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