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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I bought an L-Glutamine supplement today. The label on the back says that 1 scoop equals 2 grams, which is the amount I'd like to consume.

There is no scoop in the container.

Not being able to weigh the glutamine, I'm hoping someone can tell me an appropriate comparable measurement in teaspoons or tablespoons. Obviously I know the volume/mass issue here but hopefully someone has experience.
post #2 of 15
Glutamine is the most plentiful amino acid in almost all proteins and can be synthesized by the human body. I've never understood why people buy it. Do you still have your receipt?
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by why View Post
Glutamine is the most plentiful amino acid in almost all proteins and can be synthesized by the human body. I've never understood why people buy it.

Do you still have your receipt?

Agree... it is a waste of money.
post #4 of 15
There is much chatter that L-glutatmine has very low oral availability; that it doesn't withstand the rigours of the stomach very well. This is, of course, spouted by people selling glutamine peptides.

A 2 gram dose is also pretty small. Most of them state 1 serving is 5 grams, and many people take 15 grams a day or more.

Since there is no scoop inside, you should easily be able to return it. I'm not saying it's useless though; I use it. Seems to reduce muscle soreness, but that's only anecdotal for me and there could be other reasons.
post #5 of 15
More than likely, there is a scoop in the container. It may have worked it's way towards the middle/bottom of the container.
post #6 of 15
Pretty sure most of these reccomend one tablespoon per serving.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Grayland View Post
More than likely, there is a scoop in the container. It may have worked it's way towards the middle/bottom of the container.

I dug around, couldn't find one.

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Pretty sure most of these reccomend one tablespoon per serving.

Thanks. Anyone else?
post #8 of 15
one teaspoon is pretty much the standard for all glut supplement brands. Check their webpages (allmax, universal, eas, prolab, on, etc. etc) and you'll see the recommended dosages.
post #9 of 15
Seriously, why don't you just weigh the stuff?
post #10 of 15
A level teaspoon is about 5 grams. Glutamine administered orally is worthless, and this is coming from me, Mr. I Love Supplements.

BCAA aren't worth it either IMO, especially considering cottage cheese is a better source of BCAAs at less than 1/10 the price.

True you can't eat cottage cheese while working out like you can swig a BCAA supp....but honestly...if you are to the point where you actually notice a difference, then your level of training, knowledge, and diet are above and beyond 99% of everyone else out there.

In other words, try not to overthink shit. There are tons of great supplements that do work out there, but it takes you researching and finding what works for you. Be very leary of bodybuilding supplements though. They tend to hype shit up even more than general supplement companies.
post #11 of 15
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1: Appl Physiol Nutr Metab. 2006 Oct;31(5):518-29. Addition of glutamine to essential amino acids and carbohydrate does not enhance anabolism in young human males following exercise. Wilkinson SB, Kim PL, Armstrong D, Phillips SM. Exercise Metabolism Research Group, Department of Kinesiology, McMaster University, 1280 Main St. West, Hamilton, ON L8S 4K1, Canada. We examined the effect of a post-exercise oral carbohydrate (CHO, 1 g.kg(-1).h(-1)) and essential amino acid (EAA, 9.25 g) solution containing glutamine (0.3 g/kg BW; GLN trial) versus an isoenergetic CHO-EAA solution without glutamine (control, CON trial) on muscle glycogen resynthesis and whole-body protein turnover following 90 min of cycling at 65% VO2 peak. Over the course of 3 h of recovery, muscle biopsies were taken to measure glycogen resynthesis and mixed muscle protein synthesis (MPS), by incorporation of [ring-2H5] phenylalanine. Infusion of [1-13C] leucine was used to measure whole-body protein turnover. Exercise resulted in a significant decrease in muscle glycogen (p < 0.05) with similar declines in each trial. Glycogen resynthesis following 3 h of recovery indicated no difference in total accumulation or rate of repletion. Leucine oxidation increased 2.5 fold (p < 0.05) during exercise, returned to resting levels immediately post-exercise,and was again elevated at 3 h post-exercise (p < 0.05). Leucine flux, an index of whole-body protein breakdown rate, was reduced during exercise, but increased to resting levels immediately post-exercise, and was further increased at 3 h post-exercise (p < 0.05), but only during the CON trial. Exercise resulted in a marked suppression of whole-body protein synthesis (50% of rest; p < 0.05), which was restored post-exercise; however, the addition of glutamine did not affect whole-body protein synthesis post-exercise. The rate of MPS was not different between trials. The addition of glutamine to a CHO + EAA beverage had no effect on post-exercise muscle glycogen resynthesis or muscle protein synthesis, but may suppress a rise in whole-body proteolysis during the later stages of recovery. PMID: 17111006 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Eur J Appl Physiol. 2001 Dec;86(2):142-9. Effect of glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults. Candow DG, Chilibeck PD, Burke DG, Davison KS, Smith-Palmer T. College of Kinesiology, University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada. The purpose of this study was to assess the effect of oral glutamine supplementation combined with resistance training in young adults. A group of 31 subjects, aged 18-24 years, were randomly allocated to groups (double blind) to receive either glutamine (0.9 g x kg lean tissue mass(-1) x day(-1); n = 17) or a placebo (0.9 g maltodextrin x kg lean tissue mass(-1) x day(-1); n = 14 during 6 weeks of total body resistance training. Exercises were performed for four to five sets of 6-12 repetitions at intensities ranging from 60% to 90% 1 repetition maximum (1 RM). Before and after training, measurements were taken of 1 RM squat and bench press strength, peak knee extension torque (using an isokinetic dynamometer), lean tissue mass (dual energy X-ray absorptiometry) and muscle protein degradation (urinary 3-methylhistidine by high performance liquid chromatography). Repeated measures ANOVA showed that strength, torque, lean tissue mass and 3-methylhistidine increased with training (P < 0.05), with no significant difference between groups. Both groups increased their 1 RM squat by approximately 30% and 1 RM bench press by approximately 14%. The glutamine group showed increases of 6% for knee extension torque, 2% for lean tissue mass and 41% for urinary levels of 3-methylhistidine. The placebo group increased knee extension torque by 5%, lean tissue mass by 1.7% and 3-methylhistidine by 56%. We conclude that glutamine supplementation during resistance training has no significant effect on muscle performance, body composition or muscle protein degradation in young healthy adults. PMID: 11822473 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Facts and fallacies of purported ergogenic amino acid supplements. Williams MH. Department of Exercise Science, Physical Education, and Recreation, Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Virginia, USA. mwilliam@odu.edu Although current research suggests that individuals involved in either high-intensity resistance or endurance exercise may have an increased need for dietary protein, the available research is either equivocal or negative relative to the ergogenic effects of supplementation with individual amino acids. Although some research suggests that the induction of hyperaminoacidemia via intravenous infusion of a balanced amino acid mixture may induce an increased muscle protein synthesis after exercise, no data support the finding that oral supplementation with amino acids, in contrast to dietary protein, as the source of amino acids is more effective. Some well-controlled studies suggest that aspartate salt supplementation may enhance endurance performance, but other studies do not, meriting additional research. Current data, including results for several well-controlled studies, indicated that supplementation with arginine, ornithine, or lysine, either separately or in combination, does not enhance the effect of exercise stimulation on either hGH or various measures of muscular strength or power in experienced weightlifters. Plasma levels of BCAA and tryptophan may play important roles in the cause of central fatigue during exercise, but the effects of BCAA or tryptophan supplementation do not seem to be effective ergogenics for endurance exercise performance, particularly when compared with carbohydrate supplementation, a more natural choice. Although glutamine supplementation may increase plasma glutamine levels, its effect on enhancement of the immune system and prevention of adverse effects of the overtraining syndrome are equivocal. Glycine, a precursor for creatine, does not seem to possess the ergogenic potential of creatine supplementation. Research with metabolic by-products of amino acid metabolism is in its infancy, and current research findings are equivocal relative to ergogenic applications. In general, physically active individuals are advised to obtain necessary amino acids through consumption of natural, high-quality protein foods. PMID: 10410846 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Amino acids and endurance exercise. Hargreaves MH, Snow R. School of Health Sciences, Deakin University, Burwood, 3125, Australia. Although skeletal muscle is capable of oxidizing selected amino acids, exercise in the fed and carbohydrate-replete condition results in only a small increase in amino acid utilization. Nevertheless, it may be important to increase the dietary protein requirements of active individuals. There is ongoing debate as to whether the amino acids for oxidation are derived from the free amino acid pool, from net protein breakdown, or a combination of both. There has been interest in the potential ergogenic benefits of amino acid ingestion; however, BCAA ingestion does not appear to affect fatigue during prolonged exercise, there is little support from controlled studies to recommend glutamine ingestion for enhanced immune function, and although glutamine stimulates muscle glycogen synthesis, its addition to carbohydrate supplements provides no additional benefit over ingestion of carbohydrate alone. PMID: 11255141 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] The Effects of High-Dose Glutamine Ingestion on Weightlifting Performance JOSE ANTONIO1, 3, MICHAEL S. SANDERS1, DOUGLAS KALMAN2, DEREK WOODGATE1, and CHRIS STREET1 1. Sports Science Laboratory, University of Delaware, Newark, Delaware 19716, 2. Peak Wellness, Greenwich, Connecticut 06830, 3. Address correspondence to Jose Antonio, Scientific Affairs Department, Nutricia, 6111 Broken Sound Parkway NW, Boca Raton, FL 33487 The purpose of this study was to determine if high-dose glutamine ingestion affected weightlifting performance. In a double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study, 6 resistance-trained men (mean ? SE: age, 21.5 ? 0.3 years; weight, 76.5 ? 2.8 kg−1) performed weightlifting exercises after the ingestion of glutamine or glycine (0.3 g?kg−1) mixed with calorie-free fruit juice or placebo (calorie-free fruit juice only). Each subject underwent each of the 3 treatments in a randomized order. One hour after ingestion, subjects performed 4 total sets of exercise to momentary muscular failure (2 sets of leg presses at 200% of body weight, 2 sets of bench presses at 100% of body weight). There were no differences in the average number of maximal repetitions performed in the leg press or bench press exercises among the 3 groups. These data indicate that the short-term ingestion of glutamine does not enhance weightlifting performance in resistance-trained men. Reference Data:Antonio, J., M.S. Sanders, D. Kalman, D. Woodgate, and C. Street. The effects of high-dose glutamine ingestion on weightlifting performance.
Don't even bother with it.
post #12 of 15
This may be just placebo, but I take glutamine not for exercise performance but for the immune system boost that I perceive. If I feel some sickness (cold, sore throat, etc) coming on and I am sleep deprived, I'll take 5-10g of glutamine before bed and often I'll feel much better in the morning.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by why View Post
Glutamine is the most plentiful amino acid in almost all proteins and can be synthesized by the human body. I've never understood why people buy it.

Do you still have your receipt?

i clicked on a glutamine thread expecting lulz. thanks for ruining it.
post #14 of 15
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Edited by Radagast - 10/23/11 at 9:45am
post #15 of 15
Yes, because then you can give more money to suppliement companies
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