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post #46 of 99
I have a Tom Ford tie and the luster of the tie is amazing. I don't wear it owen, but its a dark purple with white pin-dots and its quite nice. The only problem is its 3+ inches wide and very long so it doesn't make a nice FIH, you always have to some much more complicated knot to get it to the right length.
post #47 of 99
It's funny, in neither my WAYW nor in real life do people distinguish between my pricey ties and the cheapies I've bought at Marshall's.

Admittedly, some cheap ties are best avoided, but once you've handled enough nice ones, it's easy to tell the difference. Feel the hand, see how it knots, check out how it hangs. Not much to it. Just avoid the ones that look really cheap.

Bear in mind that what constitutes a "nice tie" is different now than it used to be. Tie thickness, sheen, even construction are all subject to trends. Sometimes you're paying for the latest style as much as anything else.
post #48 of 99
I agree that it's hard to tell an exspensive tie. That being said, I have bought a few from Banana Republic for $50. and Even a burberry for $150. I know Burberry may seem trendy but that tie just looks and feels so much better. I would like to get some other nice ties (other brands) to add to my collection. Some of the cheaper ties feel like a silk shoe string. LOL, I like some of the comments because it's true most don't even recognize my Burberry Tie, although people do recognize a cheap one.
post #49 of 99
Sadly I get more compliments from my Psycho Bunny ties than my Kiton 7-folds...

I agree good ties tend to hold a knot and hang better but after thinking about it I associate 'expensive' ties with the whole ensemble. Men that wear ties with a good knot, have the right length, with the appropriate shirt collar, jacket, etc. are those whom I assume have 'expensive' ties; I guess to me it's the gestalt of it all.
post #50 of 99
Ties are like other clothes articles, just because it is from a reputable brand does not necessarily mean it is going to be made of quality material and function better than something less expensive. That said, my most expensive tie is CLEARLY better quality than my other ties. A blind person could feel my ties and tell which one is the best based on texture/weight of the material. This is not always the case, though.

IMO, the ultimate expensive tie statement is the Hermes critter tie. It says, "That's right, I paid $100 for a tie with cartoon animals on it. Yes, I realize I could have gotten the same ridiculous look for $5. That's how unimportant money is to me." Ironically, it also seems to say, "I desperately want you to know I paid $100 for this tie." It's the sartorial equivalent of lighting your cigar with a flaming $100 bill, then quickly snuffing the bill out and tucking the unburnt portion back in your pocket when nobody's looking.
post #51 of 99
most people cannot tell. it only matters if you can pull it off with what you're wearing. An expensive tie that doesn't fit well with your wardrobe will not look good vs a cheaper tie that fits well with what you're wearing.
post #52 of 99
^ +1 Broadly speaking, more expensive ties are put together a bit better and tend to give better knots as a result. However, that isn't always the case. For example, there are a lot of Hermes and Brioni ties that are as flimsy as dinner napkins and I wouldn't touch them for that reason. Also, I have purchased ties at Marshall's that give killer knots so impressive you would think they cost 10x their actual price. For those reasons I'd consider the look and feel of a tie before worrying about the label.
post #53 of 99
Hello, In my opinion, Radicaldog posted a pretty damn good answer: "Good quality expensive ties look expensive close-up, but only to those who know something about clothes. It's the weight of the silk, the quality of the weave (e.g. if it has no black background) or of the print, the way they hold the knot, etc. But most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Some Hermes, Gucci and Ferragamo patterns are quite recognisable as such by more people, but not by most. If you don' want logos beware of those Hermes ties with the 'H' disguised as a geometric or equestrian pattern." Your question is indicative of a fundamental problem, why would you want someone to know that your tie was expensive? The reason I say this, is because just because something is expensive, does not mean that it is stylish, of good quality, or anything else. It's true that what a man wears can say a lot about him, but not everything. If you want an expensive tie, go and buy a bright orange one from Hermes...and like the previous poster said..."leave the price tag on". That's what people do with Air Jordans, it's ridiculous. My advice would be that you wear something that you feel comfortable in, looks good on you, and goes well with your skin tone and the rest of your outfit. I know you didn't say this, but your self confidence in how you dress, should not be based on the price of your items. Many things that are very fashionable are derived from inexpensive lineages. (think military boots or something like that) Good luck. Below I have posted a photo, of some of my favorite vintage ties. From left to right: Valentino, Private Tailor, Saks, Dior. BTW. This is my first post...I am glad to be part of your forum...and Happy Holidays to all of you!!! http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_z1W43thtEW...s1600/ties.JPG *My name is listed as "notalwaysrig[t]", because this is my opinion, and I'm not always right.
post #54 of 99
^ Wow, that is remarkably good advice. Cheers to you on a successful first post, kind sir.
post #55 of 99
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post
Good quality expensive ties look expensive close-up, but only to those who know something about clothes. It's the weight of the silk, the quality of the weave (e.g. if it has no black background) or of the print, the way they hold the knot, etc. But most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Some Hermes, Gucci and Ferragamo patterns are quite recognisable as such by more people, but not by most. If you don' want logos beware of those Hermes ties with the 'H' disguised as a geometric or equestrian pattern.

Beat me to it, but yeah couldn't agree muur.
post #56 of 99
The more folds the tie has, the better it is. Nearly everybody sees a knot the size of a man's fist and says "Seven folds!"
post #57 of 99
this point has been made but i like beating dead horses (hello PETA)

1. you should dress well for your own sense of self satisfaction not for that of others. your average person in the street has crap style so if you want to get noticed by the mojority of people out there dress like crap

2. if you want people with taste to notice, well then, when you look good you feel good and visa versa, giving off a sense of confidence and put togetherness will get more notice than walking around with a fancy tie hoping people will know its fancy

basically have class dont be an ass
post #58 of 99
Has anyone considered that OP might have been planning to meet with a banker or a client or someone business related that he knew was superficial and was planning to play off their bias? I wouldn't try to impress my friends with the expensiveness of my wardrobe, but if it helped me in business I'd do it.

Only one mention of Tom Ford. Aren't those ties extremely thick and luxurious? I'd think if you're wearing something similar the following photo, people would notice:


post #59 of 99
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Originally Posted by Star View Post
Why don't you get something with a Versace medusa patterned all over it?


Actually, the first time I saw my current general practitioner (i.e., main doctor), he wore a Versace tie with a single Medusa emblem at the bottom middle half of the tie. That and the Mercedes S550 he drives makes me think he can afford a few expensive ties. Beyond that and the few Hermes pattern ties I've seen, it is a bit hard to tell just by the tie. The more obvious tell though is that someone wearing a terribly fitted suit (since you wear ties with suits...) normally does not wear a good tie either while someone with a great fitting suit, showing cuffs, pick stiching, just lots of details in general normally have an expensive tie to match the set.
post #60 of 99
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Originally Posted by Made in California View Post
Has anyone considered that OP might have been planning to meet with a banker or a client or someone business related that he knew was superficial and was planning to play off their bias? I wouldn't try to impress my friends with the expensiveness of my wardrobe, but if it helped me in business I'd do it.

Only one mention of Tom Ford. Aren't those ties extremely thick and luxurious? I'd think if you're wearing something similar the following photo, people would notice:



i wasnt getting that vibe but you do make a valid point
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