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Are any of you gents attending any of ABT's performances at the Met this season?
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Seeing Le Corsaire next which is my favorite. It show cases the cool athletic stuff the men can do. The others show off quite dainty women.
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Seeing Le Corsaire next which is my favorite. It show cases the cool athletic stuff the men can do. The others show off quite dainty women.

Ahh I'll be there next Tuesday as well. I guess I'll look for the gent in a pocket square?
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Actually I'm going Wed night as I want to see Carreno. His machismo is unusually well suited to Le Corsaire. Nina is dancing that night too, but this ballet doesn't really showcase her skills. Did you see Nina during the opening night doing the Masquerade Waltz? It was fun. Last year she did a dying swan routine for the opening night which was otherworldly.
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I like to put this in every ballet thread, though it isn't really relevant. I saw this when the Kirov was in NY
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Actually I'm going Wed night as I want to see Carreno. His machismo is unusually well suited to Le Corsaire. Nina is dancing that night too, but this ballet doesn't really showcase her skills. Did you see Nina during the opening night doing the Masquerade Waltz? It was fun. Last year she did a dying swan routine for the opening night which was otherworldly.

Didn't get to see Nina. Carreno is good but Tuesday night has Angel Corella who I think is fantastic in Le Corsaire. You should really see him here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktsyc0rf40c

Haven't really been a fan of Nina. Can't wait to see Ossipova, going to watch Giselle and La Slyphide. Here's to hoping she leaves Bolshoi for ABT.
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I saw this when the Kirov was in NY

Do you happen to know why the Kirov so rarely comes to NYC? They annually travel to California but NYC seems to lack any significant foreign ballet performances!

My dream is to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86v05kSTZ3Y

Since only the Bolshoi performs Spartacus anymore, sadly it seems the only way I can see this is to travel to Moscow.
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Didn't get to see Nina. Carreno is good but Tuesday night has Angel Corella who I think is fantastic in Le Corsaire. You should really see him here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktsyc0rf40c

Haven't really been a fan of Nina. Can't wait to see Ossipova, going to watch Giselle and La Slyphide. Here's to hoping she leaves Bolshoi for ABT.

I saw Corella for the first time last week dancing the part of the slave in Le Corsaire. He's good. I find that opening night shows the best snippets of their season and I have more fun during that night than the rest of the season.

I'm seeing Giselle and Airs/La Slyphide as well. Traded in Sylvia for Swan Lake.
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I like to put this in every ballet thread, though it isn't really relevant. I saw this when the Kirov was in NY
I saw this at the same Kirov run last spring: The next night was their opening Balanchine program. Half of City Ballet must have been there to check them out.
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Do you happen to know why the Kirov so rarely comes to NYC? They annually travel to California but NYC seems to lack any significant foreign ballet performances!
The reasons depend on who you ask, but there are several: NYC is very expensive, there's stiff competition from the two big resident companies, NYC critics can make or break a company (though not one of the Kirov's stature, but this reason is given for smaller companies), and there aren't great theaters in NYC that outside companies can use. When the Kirov was in NYC last spring, they were cooped up in City Center, which, as you know, isn't an especially large or nice theater. In California, they have access to great theaters, very little local competition, and the weather is very nice here, too. On the bright side, a lot of the Russian stars do guest with ABT.
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My dream is to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86v05kSTZ3Y Since only the Bolshoi performs Spartacus anymore, sadly it seems the only way I can see this is to travel to Moscow.
The Bolshoi does tour this production, but besides one or two moments (like the adagio above), it's a pretty dated and inane ballet that shows its age --- it's one of those industrial Soviet ballets that celebrate the glory of the proletariat. There would probably have a been a tractor in there if they had half a chance. FWIW, there's a nice new video of it out (on BluRay as well) with Carlos Acosta guesting with the Bolshoi. --Andre
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The reasons depend on who you ask, but there are several: NYC is very expensive, there's stiff competition from the two big resident companies, NYC critics can make or break a company (though not one of the Kirov's stature, but this reason is given for smaller companies), and there aren't great theaters in NYC that outside companies can use. When the Kirov was in NYC last spring, they were cooped up in City Center, which, as you know, isn't an especially large or nice theater. In California, they have access to great theaters, very little local competition, and the weather is very nice here, too.

I figured there would be some intense rivalry with NYCB, I really really despise NYCB. It's disgraceful that the Kirov had to perform at City Center last spring.

I've read a few nasty reviews of the Kirov and some other Russian ballet companies in the NY Times archive, and sometimes I wonder what they're smoking when considering how favorably they look at NYCB and their ilk. It's a conspiracy I tell you.
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I figured there would be some intense rivalry with NYCB, I really really despise NYCB. It's disgraceful that the Kirov had to perform at City Center last spring.

I've read a few nasty reviews of the Kirov and some other Russian ballet companies in the NY Times archive, and sometimes I wonder what they're smoking when considering how favorably they look at NYCB and their ilk. It's a conspiracy I tell you.

BTW, my comments about theater space assumed a large company like the Kirov (ie. carrying around 100 dancers on tour), and as you probably know well, lots of smaller companies visit theaters like the Joyce and BAM.

Critics can be inconsistent and companies can perform inconsistently, too, but the current NYT critic is pretty good, knowledgeable, and writes well. I also find it ironic and surprising that many NYC-based dance fans (and I don't mean the people in this thread) are pretty provincial in their view of the dance world. The previous NYT critic before Macaulay was like this.

Personally, I don't care for ABT at all and think they're completely overrated. It's like an all-star pickup team: lots of talent, but no cohesion or style. The worst Giselle I've ever seen was an ABT production (Paloma was Giselle ... uggh!), and their new Sleeping Beauty is a complete waste of money and time. There are many American companies operating at a higher level than ABT: SFB, PNB, MCB, and Boston come to mind.

NYCB has been inconsistent, and, some say, irresponsible with their legacy, but I last saw them live in 2003, and really enjoyed them, too. Word from friends recently is that there's a new crop of dancers who are dancing really well. The few minutes I've skimmed over this past week's broadcast of their Romeo+Juliet showed a really good-looking company.

--Andre
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Critics can be inconsistent and companies can perform inconsistently, too, but the current NYT critic is pretty good, knowledgeable, and writes well. I also find it ironic and surprising that many NYC-based dance fans (and I don't mean the people in this thread) are pretty provincial in their view of the dance world. The previous NYT critic before Macaulay was like this. Personally, I don't care for ABT at all and think they're completely overrated. It's like an all-star pickup team: lots of talent, but no cohesion or style. The worst Giselle I've ever seen was an ABT production (Paloma was Giselle ... uggh!), and their new Sleeping Beauty is a complete waste of money and time. There are many American companies operating at a higher level than ABT: SFB, PNB, MCB, and Boston come to mind. NYCB has been inconsistent, and, some say, irresponsible with their legacy, but I last saw them live in 2003, and really enjoyed them, too. Word from friends recently is that there's a new crop of dancers who are dancing really well. The few minutes I've skimmed over this past week's broadcast of their Romeo+Juliet showed a really good-looking company. --Andre
I'm surprised you like Macaulay. It seems like the Kirov have been anything but mechanical and athletic these days. I'm also a huge fan of Leonid Sarafanov. As far as NYCB goes, I have completed disavowed them after last season. The Nutcracker seems to be getting worse and worse each year, and their modern dancing repertoire needs some fresh talent. They are far too sloppy and athletic. There's no reason why Jock Soto should still be allowed to call himself a principal. They even had a senior corps member performing the Arabian dance and it looked like some cheap stripper. They need to do away with their highly restrictive SAB training system which narrows the talent pool by far too much. I can't believe you consider PNW or Boston ballet to be better than ABT. Sure they are criticized for being a bit of a circus act given their cast of superstars, but really, compared to the rest of American ballet they actually have some talent. And Ossipova will be guest performing in Giselle. She's a terrific talent but we'll see whether she lives up to her expectations in what I consider to be one of the toughest artistic roles in ballet. Did you get to check out the Kirov when they were in LA in December? I almost flew out the to see them perform the Nutcracker. Their new choreography is fantastic. p.s. I have a certain friend at ABT so I may be hugely biased
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I'm seeing Giselle and Airs/La Slyphide as well. Traded in Sylvia for Swan Lake.

I couldn't convince anyone to watch La Sylphide with me, so I'll be there alone. Watching it w/ Ossipova.
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The worst Giselle I've ever seen was an ABT production (Paloma was Giselle ... uggh!), and their new Sleeping Beauty is a complete waste of money and time.
I mentioned this to someone at ABT who replied: "OMG, WHO THE F*** SAID THAT?? MY COACH PRODUCED SLEEPING BEAUTY, THAT SLUT BAG." Oh, another gem: "thank god kent's on maternity leave, she should be on that forever, but of course miss diva will not leave without a proper farewell."
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I couldn't convince anyone to watch La Sylphide with me, so I'll be there alone. Watching it w/ Ossipova.

I'm seeing it with Hallberg and Seo. I've only seen a snippet.

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I mentioned this to someone at ABT who replied:

"OMG, WHO THE F*** SAID THAT?? MY COACH PRODUCED SLEEPING BEAUTY, THAT SLUT BAG."



Oh, another gem:

"thank god kent's on maternity leave, she should be on that forever, but of course miss diva will not leave without a proper farewell."

Best Sleeping Beauty I've seen is with Nureyev in Paris doing this solo at the end.

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I figured there would be some intense rivalry with NYCB, I really really despise NYCB. It's disgraceful that the Kirov had to perform at City Center last spring.

Last fall season even the ABT had to perform at CC. I saw the Kirov a few years ago at the Met. *shrug*
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