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post #7246 of 22060
Just bought this on ebay for $69. Did I get an OK deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190599876716#ht_634wt_962
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Originally Posted by NorCal_1 View Post


next time you are there, please take pictures and post them smile.gif


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Couldn't sneak shots inside.
 

 

post #7248 of 22060
re: JIMMYFINGERS

so, I see JimmyFingers didn't feel the need to post all weekend, despite his claims about being unemployed (he should have lots of time on his hands in that instance shouldn't he)

I held off saying any more than what was said last week to give him the chance to come clean and figure out a path forward to make everybody whole.

Last week he claimed that '90% of people got their goods' whereas the list compiled by Rayson shows the opposite - maybe 5-10% got their goods and the rest didn't - a classic fraud signature.

He also claimed to be leaving his job anyway in 2 weeks in early October and told everybody he was doing them a favor of getting the discount before he left. He also said he had cancer and solicited the purchase of Pink Pony cards, none of which were ever received by anyone who contributed and felt bad for his supposed predicament.

Along the way, he's popped up to say there was a PayPal issue, RL warehouse issues, and various other delays. All the while he took more orders. When a month passed with no goods arriving for the 90% who ordered, he showed up again and claimed he had been assaulted and thus couldn't answer emails or PM, and yet, he spent a good deal of time detailing his 'story' in a loooooong email with not a mention the order status for anyone. He also didn't update ANYONE voluntarily and when asked and continued to claim to both me and Dave_SFU that the goods were ordered and to be ‘patient’ with him because of the problems he was having with PayPal. In my case, my order was sent to his supposed mother’s email and he said that it was transferred overt to him, so the PayPal problem should not have affected my order. He also received my order in early October and I told him not to wait to bundle orders because I was afraid the jeans I was ordering would sell out and I didn’t want to risk that happening. He said they were ordered, not to worry (my size has since sold out with the sale and I can't get them any longer). I have PM’s and emails to prove all of this. He also claimed throughout much of this that the RL warehouse was also causing problems and sending the wrong items and he had to sort it out. The list of excuses and stories would make Bernie Madoff blush. How many of you actually think now that he has cancer? Or was assaulted?

If the PayPal lockdown was the real problem, why did he tell everybody the orders were still being placed because BillmeLater was being used to place them? There shouldn't be any orders that weren't placed and the only problem he should have had was getting his father to front the money because the funds in PayPal will eventually be unlocked.

There is a paper trail a mile long for all of my interactions with him and the same for the rest of you and I mention this because it makes it very easy for all of us to get together and file fraud claims if the period of being 'nice' ends. Frankly, I'm close to that point now because his actions are speaking louder than his words. I thought I’d give him the weekend to say something. He didn’t.

To add insult to injury, a week after placing the order RL announced it’s 40% + 15% off sale, which meant that we were paying a proxy fee to him for orders when he knew we could have received the same goods for less. As a testament to how nice we all are, I don’t think that any of us asked for refunds when the sale was announced (why pay a proxy fee for nothing?), and I guess we figured we were helping him out pay for future medical costs, if he did truly have cancer. That was my rationale anyway.

He’s been given the best possible treatment by all of us this entire time. We couldn't have been more patient, more sympathetic to his alleged situation

I asked JimmyFingers on several occasions to get my early October order processed and shipped so I could decide whether to order more during the sale. There was plenty of time to do it, assuming he was being honest. In my case, again, my money WASN’T tied up in the PayPal issue, he had it free and clear from the day he got it in early October and I have the PM’s to validate it. He said it was ordered and to be patient with the shipping.

Many of us got double screwed because JimmyFingers never alerted anyone to the order ‘problems’ while the RL 40% + 15% sale was still going on, so many of us lost the opportunity to get what we wanted, trusting the first orders to go through. He KNEW the orders hadn’t been placed and yet again failed to say anything despite many of us asking right up until the last day of the sale for status updates. I lost out on my order because it sold out in my size.

JimmyFingers, the ball is in your court for the last time. Do the right thing. At this point I don't know what you could possibly say to stop fraud claims from being filed so we can protect ourselves as best we can.

The bottom line is this: you were given money plus a handsome proxy fee to simply place orders. Somewhere between there and here the money disappeared and you now claimed you're broke in emails to Dave_SFU. That constitutes theft. Unless the money is returned.

At a minimum, the money I sent you should be returned because it was never embroiled in the PayPal lockdown. You admitted you got it and used it to place the order. Did you really? There should be no problems for my order - either return the money or send the goods. Otherwise it proves beyond any reasonable doubt that all of this was a sham. The amazing amount of goodwill displayed by members here toward you is quickly running out.
Edited by NorCal_1 - 11/14/11 at 6:02am
post #7249 of 22060
Glad I didn't send him a money order for the jeans that someone "backed out on".
post #7250 of 22060
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Originally Posted by tv2177 View Post

I like it a lot, but too $$$ to kop....

Don't forget - if you buy from the UK you'll get the VAT deducted. That particular Barbour would come out to a much more reasonable $418 (ish). Just a thought...
post #7251 of 22060



 


 



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Originally Posted by NorCal_1 View Post


for those of you who want an alternative to the RRL hunting jacket, I saw this Barbour yesterday at Unionmadegoods in SF that comes pre-distressed that is INSANELY AMAZING in person

I never knew that Barbour was getting into the distressing game, but they are,,,, and this is right up there with anything RRL had ever done
it's not dirty looking at all despite the way it appears in the picture - it's just the way they do the patina on the waxed cotton that captures the light/dark of old cloth
http://www.unionmadegoods.com/Barbour_Shap_in_Olive_2580.html
350
Barbour Shap in Olive
$650.00
Mens Barbour Shap Waxed Jacket is a distressed engineered and customized Bedale, designed to give a lived in look and feel.
Made from a distressed 100% waxed cotton outer to give it an aged/worn feel.
-Includes a brown corduroy collar with neck tab, corduroy right shoulder rifle patch.
-Two way zip closure with popper storm flap, two hand warmer pockets, two large bellows pockets, popper fastening to cuffs, under arm vents, two rear poachers pockets.
-100% cotton tartan lining.
 


 I just went and had a look at this in my local stockist. I'm not sure if i like it as much as the RRL Hunting Jkt. The wearing in process is more sprayed on than actually worn in. It kind of looked a little fake. And trust me in the UK everyone is wearing Barbour at the moment and i'm not talking about all the right people.

 

Then again that Maroon 5 guys not exactly a great RRL ambassador.

post #7252 of 22060
Shameless plug....
Somebody buy the Winter 11 Flannel in my sig.
This is from the latest batch of goods at a fair price.
post #7253 of 22060
if only that was XS ...
post #7254 of 22060
Shocked peeps haven't jumped on it....
post #7255 of 22060
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Originally Posted by Ghost01 View Post


 I just went and had a look at this in my local stockist. I'm not sure if i like it as much as the RRL Hunting Jkt. The wearing in process is more sprayed on than actually worn in. It kind of looked a little fake. And trust me in the UK everyone is wearing Barbour at the moment and i'm not talking about all the right people.

Then again that Maroon 5 guys not exactly a great RRL ambassador.

thanks for the input, I am go take a look at the US factor around thanksgiving and see if they have that in stock and I can tried on.
post #7256 of 22060
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Originally Posted by edubs01 View Post

Shocked peeps haven't jumped on it....

Wasn't it just on sale during private sale?
post #7257 of 22060
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Originally Posted by NorCal_1 View Post

re: JIMMYFINGERS
so, I see JimmyFingers didn't feel the need to post all weekend, despite his claims about being unemployed (he should have lots of time on his hands in that instance shouldn't he)
I held off saying any more than what was said last week to give him the chance to come clean and figure out a path forward to make everybody whole.
Last week he claimed that '90% of people got their goods' whereas the list compiled by Rayson shows the opposite - maybe 5-10% got their goods and the rest didn't - a classic fraud signature.
He also claimed to be leaving his job anyway in 2 weeks in early October and told everybody he was doing them a favor of getting the discount before he left. He also said he had cancer and solicited the purchase of Pink Pony cards, none of which were ever received by anyone who contributed and felt bad for his supposed predicament.
Along the way, he's popped up to say there was a PayPal issue, RL warehouse issues, and various other delays. All the while he took more orders. When a month passed with no goods arriving for the 90% who ordered, he showed up again and claimed he had been assaulted and thus couldn't answer emails or PM, and yet, he spent a good deal of time detailing his 'story' in a loooooong email with not a mention the order status for anyone. He also didn't update ANYONE voluntarily and when asked and continued to claim to both me and Dave_SFU that the goods were ordered and to be ‘patient’ with him because of the problems he was having with PayPal. In my case, my order was sent to his supposed mother’s email and he said that it was transferred overt to him, so the PayPal problem should not have affected my order. He also received my order in early October and I told him not to wait to bundle orders because I was afraid the jeans I was ordering would sell out and I didn’t want to risk that happening. He said they were ordered, not to worry (my size has since sold out with the sale and I can't get them any longer). I have PM’s and emails to prove all of this. He also claimed throughout much of this that the RL warehouse was also causing problems and sending the wrong items and he had to sort it out. The list of excuses and stories would make Bernie Madoff blush. How many of you actually think now that he has cancer? Or was assaulted?
If the PayPal lockdown was the real problem, why did he tell everybody the orders were still being placed because BillmeLater was being used to place them? There shouldn't be any orders that weren't placed and the only problem he should have had was getting his father to front the money because the funds in PayPal will eventually be unlocked.
There is a paper trail a mile long for all of my interactions with him and the same for the rest of you and I mention this because it makes it very easy for all of us to get together and file fraud claims if the period of being 'nice' ends. Frankly, I'm close to that point now because his actions are speaking louder than his words. I thought I’d give him the weekend to say something. He didn’t.
To add insult to injury, a week after placing the order RL announced it’s 40% + 15% off sale, which meant that we were paying a proxy fee to him for orders when he knew we could have received the same goods for less. As a testament to how nice we all are, I don’t think that any of us asked for refunds when the sale was announced (why pay a proxy fee for nothing?), and I guess we figured we were helping him out pay for future medical costs, if he did truly have cancer. That was my rationale anyway.
He’s been given the best possible treatment by all of us this entire time. We couldn't have been more patient, more sympathetic to his alleged situation
I asked JimmyFingers on several occasions to get my early October order processed and shipped so I could decide whether to order more during the sale. There was plenty of time to do it, assuming he was being honest. In my case, again, my money WASN’T tied up in the PayPal issue, he had it free and clear from the day he got it in early October and I have the PM’s to validate it. He said it was ordered and to be patient with the shipping.
Many of us got double screwed because JimmyFingers never alerted anyone to the order ‘problems’ while the RL 40% + 15% sale was still going on, so many of us lost the opportunity to get what we wanted, trusting the first orders to go through. He KNEW the orders hadn’t been placed and yet again failed to say anything despite many of us asking right up until the last day of the sale for status updates. I lost out on my order because it sold out in my size.
JimmyFingers, the ball is in your court for the last time. Do the right thing. At this point I don't know what you could possibly say to stop fraud claims from being filed so we can protect ourselves as best we can.
The bottom line is this: you were given money plus a handsome proxy fee to simply place orders. Somewhere between there and here the money disappeared and you now claimed you're broke in emails to Dave_SFU. That constitutes theft. Unless the money is returned.
At a minimum, the money I sent you should be returned because it was never embroiled in the PayPal lockdown. You admitted you got it and used it to place the order. Did you really? There should be no problems for my order - either return the money or send the goods. Otherwise it proves beyond any reasonable doubt that all of this was a sham. The amazing amount of goodwill displayed by members here toward you is quickly running out.


This is ridiculous. It's like you're trying to convince yourself that he's dishonest. I can do it three words: he's a fraudster. You're not getting your money back and you should be contacting the police about this. Sorry you and the others were deceived by this guy.
post #7258 of 22060
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure why people are wasting their breath in telling this guy to do the right thing. It's the equivalent of yelling after a thief, "Hey, that's my car," as he drives away.
post #7259 of 22060
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Originally Posted by oceansaway View Post

This is ridiculous. It's like you're trying to convince yourself that he's dishonest. I can do it three words: he's a fraudster. You're not getting your money back and you should be contacting the police about this. Sorry you and the others were deceived by this guy.

JimmyFingers has actually answered his home phone and spoken with members about the alleged orders he supposedly placed.

If this guy is a crook, he's the worst crook in history to use his real name, real address, real phone number, leave a paper trail a mile long and piss off so many people that can corroborate that he's failed to live up to his written agreements.

If we take the last step and file fraud charges, a criminal record will follow this guy his entire life. If he had problems finding a job before, in this economy, he's going to have one hell of a time with a criminal record. Employers routinely can check online for such a thing. Not to mention what will happen to his credit history and ability to get credit cards or use Paypal.

Call me a good samaritan, but he's got one last chance to redeem himself. Time's running out. There's lots he could do or say but I'm not going to give him any clues. It's up to him to do the right thing and talk with actions, not words.
post #7260 of 22060
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Originally Posted by NorCal_1 View Post

JimmyFingers has actually answered his home phone and spoken with members about the alleged orders he supposedly placed.
If this guy is a crook, he's the worst crook in history to use his real name, real address, real phone number, leave a paper trail a mile long and piss off so many people that can corroborate that he's failed to live up to his written agreements.
If we take the last step and file fraud charges, a criminal record will follow this guy his entire life. If he had problems finding a job before, in this economy, he's going to have one hell of a time with a criminal record. Employers routinely can check online for such a thing. Not to mention what will happen to his credit history and ability to get credit cards or use Paypal.
Call me a good samaritan, but he's got one last chance to redeem himself. Time's running out. There's lots he could do or say but I'm not going to give him any clues. It's up to him to do the right thing and talk with actions, not words.

I've had numerous SF transactions (plus eBay) the past couple of years and this is the first one to go wrong. I'm currently out $400+ and the money was sent in past few weeks so is not related to JF's PayPal problems. Maybe I'm still in denial or just plain stupid but I'll wait out today with NorCal_1 to see if JF says anything more. I know he's been on SF today in the last hour. After today then it's time to file mail and internet fraud claims with the authorities.....
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