The Official RRL Thread - Page 481

not sure but he does have an email contact:


Dr. Collectors Dungarees Maker
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also, his blog roll is interesting to check out:

http://www.blogger.com/profile/00610393610170846637

I think we see about the same point of view. You're saying of course I should demand satisfaction, which I'm trying to do, and I've tried to explain that I don't see any loftiest of moral high ground, just an infinite sliding scale (if anybody sees scams as all the same, God help anybody who deals with them).

That said, I don't know how "not for the public" retail sales go. I've heard the phrase "friends and family" but I now assume "friends" is incredibly limited. I never called him a scammer, either. That said, I don't owe people thousands of dollars, and I've been in positions where I've put myself through hell to ensure I'm not messing with people on that kind of scale. I'd have bought the stuff at retail if I could've afforded it. I went for this deal because of the price, which has to be a more than common reaction. If it turns out I can't afford it, I thought, I can sell it easily and break even. Where I fucked up was buying some non-essential stuff for the first time in a long time. It turned out I still couldn't afford to buy non-essential stuff. No problem, I'll just have to sell it when it turns up. Even convinced a friend doing better than me to buy it so I could break even. That'll annoy me, I thought, him going round in the clothes I wanted, but no option because I need to pay bills. Except now even that isn't coming. It isn't a sob story, doesn't compare with a third-world situation. Even I can see a comical side, and I'm honestly wondering if I'm going to be able to put the heating on this winter. I wish it weren't so - I'm working to make it otherwise - but that money would make a difference. I wish I were in a position just to be able to say, "ah, well, I made a mistake with what I trusted". No, I shouldn't have put myself in this position but people who can't afford these things at normal price are likely to get sucked into these sorts of problems. Of course I take responsibility for that, because I'm not on the loftiest of moral high grounds - nobody is - and now I'm trying - need - to demand satisfaction as you say I should.

from his PM to me....

[quote name="jimmyfingers"
Oct 25, 2011 at 7:04 am They have been ordered. I had a major problem with paypal, RL, and billmelater which took almost 2 weeks to correct.
Hang tight, I am sorry for this.[/quote]


he was given the money on Oct 8th and mine was sent to his mother's account which wasn't frozen so that excuse won't hold water either and he confirmed that he got it from her

if you have them JF, why haven't they been sent? prove everybody wrong and make me whole since as you claimed, you DID order them and did get the money free and clear

hit your father up for $15 and mail them, otherwise...

Sorry for the crappy iPhone pic but thought I'd try to get the thread back on track...sort of. This RRL Twill Jersey Jacket just arrived from RL after a shipping misadventure. Fedex Home never received the first order and after a week of waiting RL CS had it sent again minus the grey chambray shirt which was OOS.

This is what I originally asked JF to proxy and so I sent him a money order ( #1) a couple of weeks ago. When the private sale hit I decided to order it myself instead of waiting for JF. I sent him more money ( #2) to change my proxy to shoes. Now I'm with the others hoping to get my money back. Crossing my fingers it's quick as my funds aren't tied up with the PayPal fiasco nor a part of the RL repayment as nothing was ordered on my behalf.

I never blamed anyone who is out $$$ here. You should demand your money back, and clear and prompt communication. This sucks for everyone who is out money, for sure. I am not absolving JF of responsibility just because I think some forumites have a blind spot to a bit of irony here. It sucks more if you were on a tight budget and went out on a limb and I get that, too. I hang out here and sometimes it seems like everyone is buying this stuff with Monopoly money and all own arsenals of cordovan and drive cars that run on Faberge eggs and bald eagle heads. But I understand this is real money to some of you, not trying to be flip.

 

When I sent my PP to Jimmy Fingers I considered it a leap of faith. I half expected to get burned on the deal. When he and I talked, it became clear that he thought buying a bunch of shit on behalf of another internet stranger just to make a few bucks was also a leap of faith. So I transacted and it worked out. Had it not worked out, I might've grabbed a Bible and a rope and ran him through the Google machine but I would've stopped at least for a moment to consider the lack of judgment on my own part for sending off a pile of $$$ to a random alias in the first place just to save some $$$ on a fucking cardigan.

 

Which fits me perfectly, I might add!

 

we should all just shop at old navy, problem solved.

^ Solution would be for you to sell things in my size.

Or..................... stop sending MONEY to people you don't know.

I received my jeans ordered through Jimmy in a reasonably timely manner. I did send my payment as a real payment though, not a gift, and just added 4% for paypal. No way I was blindly trusting anyone asking for gift. Luckily it worked out for me.

Also, someone report back when you email that Dr. Collectors guy. Those look awesome.

Hey Jimmy - sent a quick PM, please respond when you can. Thanks!

A novel idea would be to actually shop at the stores.

 

For the forums info the RRL London store is due to open today.
 

 

That's cool, if you stop in let us know how it is. I didn't realize RRL was that big in London.

Just scanned the past few pages of this thread - it's not too difficult to get on RL's mailing list for friends and family sales... Just try to buy one or two items at full price from a store or online (preferably from a store). Make it a bigger ticket item so SAs notice you (it will pay for itself in discounts over time). Give them your e-mail address. Over the years I have been able to get two or three codes per sale (one hard copy, two by e-mail). Plus, often if you just walk into a retail store during the sale, they will give you the 40% off plus 15% kicker. RL sales are pretty predictable (late october/early november, May, the pink pony discounts, etc).

Has anyone tried the RRL tailored stuff yet? It has a Boardwalk Empire vibe; looks a bit too costume-y to me, but some pieces look decent.