I don't have a problem with made in china as long as it comes cheap, the reason companies outsource there is to cut cost plain and simple..
Therefore I think people, including myself, have a real bad reaction to seeing made in china when you look at RRL price tags..
Of course there is also a huge irony of comical magnitude for a USA heritage brand to produce in China..
It's also a bit unnerving to read poor cop-out explanations such as "the chinese invented chinos" or even the indigo comment above..
there is a reason why MIC has a bad rep in quality: poor fabrics, bad sewing, lousy machine manufacturing and overall quality control issues.
now i'm not saying RRL is particularly affected by these issues, quite the opposite fortunately it appears, but come on let's be honest, Ralph moved production out there to cut costs and generate more profit and that's about it.. which is a valid choice since he garments are relatively nice quality, but certainly becomes much less justifiable when looking at the price points..
RRL really have no excuse for making their stuff there, and selling at those price points, and that goes for the Polo mainline as well, which was way better in the 80's & 90's when it produced in the US..
The above becomes especially true when you look at the competition,
btw, i have no problem with the actual clothing form RRL, especially their made in usa denim which i'm interested in, but the made in china stuff is just waaay over-priced imo!
finally on a world economy note, the above poster says "we need china", in reality you couldn't be further from the truth, america needs to reduce importing and become way more independent, especially from china, that is part of the reason this country is in the poor economic debt state that it is.. food for thought
RRL doesn't have to justify it's prices to anyone, let alone you. If you can't afford RRL you don't have to rag on where it's made to justify your perverse moral code. If it were cheap you wouldn't have a problem that it's made in China but since ''way overpriced'' you obviously can't afford it and feel the need to rant about it. That's what these arguments always come down to. A person's perceived value of an item comes from it's point of origin.
If RRL is made in China it should automatically be cheap but if illegal arabs make something in France it's okay to be expensive? These arguments would have been valid 10 or 20 years ago but today are just ad nauseam. Europe is filled with sweatshops where do you think LVC/Diesel is made? Romania and Poland.
China has tiers in production just like every other country and people are used to premium clothing coming from China and don't care as long as it's stylish and of quality construction and of luxury branding. The success of Polo and a thousand other labels is proof of that. RL makes clothes in China so they can turn slightly higher margins, nothing wrong with staying competitive in the fashion industry if everyone else is doing it and if they don't they will go out of business. Why should RRL be held to a higher standard? I can guarantee how fast RRL will become defunct if it didn't always look for cheaper labor somewhere else.
most heritage brands Levi's Vintage and others mostly produce in USA & Europe for a reason, and of course all the Japanese repro brands and their amazing attention to quality, authenticity and detail..
Also, you will never find the above brands at TJ or Marshalls because they'd be losing too much money, that goes to say the actual real value of RRL MIC..
LOL I see (or have seen) True Religion, Evisu, LVC, Wrangler black label, Diesel, Nudies, Big John, Dior Homme, Replay, Cavalli and Balmain (just to name a few) jeans at Marshalls stocked at one point or another so your argument is moot.
Please stop trolling the RRL thread with political discussions. I'd rather listen to 1000x thigh measurements questions than made in China BS one more time.
Edited by RRL CLOTHING - 8/18/11 at 1:26pm