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post #25846 of 27138
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Originally Posted by ispace View Post

Is this the $490 pair (https://m.ralphlauren.com/#/product/87370146?productId=87370146&_k=vjcq99)?

That's a lot of cash for cotton pants. Are they made in China?

I've been pretty happy with the quality of construction on the RRL Made in China stuff that I have (a couple of pair of pants and OC). While I'm not crazy about paying $$$$ for RRL to make max profits on exploiting cheap labor, if it's on sale (still RRL making HUGE way over what most brands make in terms of profits) I'll feel a little bit better. I suppose that doesn't impact what the poor folks making this stuff make, or their conditions, there has to be some pragmatism to my shopping and I don't think there's much out there that can compete with the quality of RRL.
post #25847 of 27138
Here are the Slim Straights yesterday, no tuck.

post #25848 of 27138
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Originally Posted by NewYorkIslander View Post


I've been pretty happy with the quality of construction on the RRL Made in China stuff that I have (a couple of pair of pants and OC). While I'm not crazy about paying $$$$ for RRL to make max profits on exploiting cheap labor, if it's on sale (still RRL making HUGE way over what most brands make in terms of profits) I'll feel a little bit better. I suppose that doesn't impact what the poor folks making this stuff make, or their conditions, there has to be some pragmatism to my shopping and I don't think there's much out there that can compete with the quality of RRL.

 

All valid points but keep in mind that without your demand for RRL steez, those Chinese workers wouldn't have jobs in the first place.  Exploitation is absolutely wrong, but the solution is to press for better labor laws and worker's rights.

 

Which is all to say, don't fell TOO bad about kopping RRL, because demand creates jobs.  Agree that RRL is best kopped on sale, though.  :)

post #25849 of 27138
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Originally Posted by Gruff View Post

All valid points but keep in mind that without your demand for RRL steez, those Chinese workers wouldn't have jobs in the first place.  Exploitation is absolutely wrong, but the solution is to press for better labor laws and worker's rights.

Which is all to say, don't fell TOO bad about kopping RRL, because demand creates jobs.  Agree that RRL is best kopped on sale, though.  smile.gif

I agree. And to be fair, the workers overseas in relation to cost of living there. While the pragmatist in me looks the other way, I do feel that it indirectly hurts jobs and quality of life here for garment workers as jobs fly over there, and that makes me cringe a bit, especially as the owner of a business trying to keep jobs here in America.
post #25850 of 27138
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Originally Posted by NewYorkIslander View Post


I agree. And to be fair, the workers overseas in relation to cost of living there. While the pragmatist in me looks the other way, I do feel that it indirectly hurts jobs and quality of life here for garment workers as jobs fly over there, and that makes me cringe a bit, especially as the owner of a business trying to keep jobs here in America.

 

Absolutely.  But jobs here vs there is a political issue, not economic.  As a business owner I'm sure you're always looking at costs, and from an economic standpoint it makes perfect sense to move production to where labor costs are cheaper.  Politically, though, it pisses people off.

 

And it's frankly understandable.  Our leaders have a responsibility to make the life of your average American better, not your average Chinese, so keeping jobs in America is a plus for us.  On the other hand, one could argue that the prevalence of jobs in China leads to an increased emphasis on labor laws and worker's rights, which historically has been one major source for the growth of democracy and democratic principles (reference Solidarity in Poland, 1970s/80s).  To the extent that this influences China and helps it move towards being a more democratic, responsible global stakeholder might be the entire world's gain.

 

I think the point is, it's not all so black and white with respect to where RRL's produced.  These are questions that go beyond our personal enjoyment of the brand, however.

post #25851 of 27138
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I've been pretty happy with the quality of construction on the RRL Made in China stuff that I have (a couple of pair of pants and OC). 

 

Same here, no problem with quality but I always wait important price reductions.

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Not RRL but thought everyone would appreciate these rough out engineers from ace boot co
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Hey all:

It's my first foray into rigid/raw denim. I have several RRL jeans (indigo slims, standard low straights, red slims) but this is my first dive into rigid.

I ordered the once washed slim fits and the rigid slim fits to see what fits better (and return the other). I am consistently 31x32 across the board so I decided to get that same size with my new purchase.

The once washed fit very nicely and has some room, but buttons snugly, right where I need it to be. The rigid is a different animal - super snug, very snug around the back of the knees. The overall fit and silouette of the rigids are great! But, the snugness worries me. I understand it will break in over time, but I'm trying to ascertain how much I need to break it in before I start to get more comfortable with it. This is akin to asking how long a piece of string is but if I wear the jeans on the weekends and make it a point to wear them throughout the day (and not tuck anything in lol), am I looking at a couple months?

I have seen various approaches to this but I was curious if there was consensus. Do I keep the rigids and just work on breaking them in? (Cold) Soak them first (while worn)? Or, do I take the safe bet and stick with the once washed? Does the cold soak come AFTER a few wears? Keep in mind, I'm not super picky over what kind of neat break-n fades I get by I don't want to short change my denim.

To a non-rigid head like myself, is the difference to someone like me nominal between the 2 jeans post break-in?

So many questions, so many jeans.

Thanks in advance for the advice!
post #25854 of 27138
@gumercindo I have been working on a pair of slim fit rigids for the last 6 months and they've been great. I'll probably go another 3-4 months before doing a first wash and I think they're gonna fade nicely over time judging by the whiskering so far.

It didn't take but a few weeks to get them to feel comfortable and they've only gotten better. No need to soak them as they are sanforized and won't shrink much if at all save for a touch in the inseam maybe.

I don't have much else in the way of RRL yet, but I've been very happy with these jeans.
post #25855 of 27138

you will break them in sooner than you think. If you were to wear them weekends (sat and sun) within 4-5 weekends they will be comfortable enough. I am 31/32 as well and when i first tried on RRL Rigid i was like hellllll noooooo.... uncomfortable to say the least. Initially, i could not even go out in them, only wore them at home. But soon (4-6 days of wearing them at home) they started feeling better and now, 4 months later its one of the best pairs of jeans i own. Along with this I have also been breaking in pair of Levis made in usa original 501, and I cant believe how much that pair has stretched, its almost baggy fit now. I plan to wait until it gets real hot (Atlanta still isnt sure what weather it should have at this time of the year) and wear/wash them in a tub  and let dry on me.... I have never done this before but am gonna try with the Levis first and based on the results i will decide on the RRL.  

post #25856 of 27138
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Originally Posted by gumercindo View Post

Hey all:

It's my first foray into rigid/raw denim. I have several RRL jeans (indigo slims, standard low straights, red slims) but this is my first dive into rigid.

I ordered the once washed slim fits and the rigid slim fits to see what fits better (and return the other). I am consistently 31x32 across the board so I decided to get that same size with my new purchase.

The once washed fit very nicely and has some room, but buttons snugly, right where I need it to be. The rigid is a different animal - super snug, very snug around the back of the knees. The overall fit and silouette of the rigids are great! But, the snugness worries me. I understand it will break in over time, but I'm trying to ascertain how much I need to break it in before I start to get more comfortable with it. This is akin to asking how long a piece of string is but if I wear the jeans on the weekends and make it a point to wear them throughout the day (and not tuck anything in lol), am I looking at a couple months?

I have seen various approaches to this but I was curious if there was consensus. Do I keep the rigids and just work on breaking them in? (Cold) Soak them first (while worn)? Or, do I take the safe bet and stick with the once washed? Does the cold soak come AFTER a few wears? Keep in mind, I'm not super picky over what kind of neat break-n fades I get by I don't want to short change my denim.

To a non-rigid head like myself, is the difference to someone like me nominal between the 2 jeans post break-in?

So many questions, so many jeans.

Thanks in advance for the advice!

I have a recently-purchased pair of rigid slims and can tell you that they stretch quickly in the waist and seat (although not to the extent of APC) and not much anywhere else. As for soaking, etc., as mentioned above they are sanforized and won't shrink to any noticeable degree. Understanding this I nonetheless subjected mine to two hot soaks, as well as put them through the dryer (after air-drying them, don't ask) and they at best shrunk back to their original waist and seat before stretching back out again.

If you're tube-steaked in them then they're too small. If the waist and seat are snug but not painful, then I think you're good, provided your thigh/calves aren't being strangled. Again, those areas won't stretch with any significance, as far as I've experienced.
Edited by whorishconsumer - 4/12/16 at 8:01am
post #25857 of 27138

Wanted to share a pair of my first washed/non-rigid(raw) jeans from RRL I just picked up...I was looking for a light blue as well as a lighter weight for the summer.  The RL store had these..they are super light weight (much lighter/thinner than I was originally looking for). They are slim fit and Japan woven....(I don't think they've posted on the RL US website yet...I don't see an exact match...)...anyway here are some pics...recommend if you are looking for some new summer denim...

 

 

post #25858 of 27138
They are very similar to the Slim-Fit Bayfield wash jeans (12 oz. American woven denim)…

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=84546446&cp=11588650.12138266.62444556&ab=ln_men_cs_slimfit&parentPage=family

Mine are not labeled "West Coast" like yours. They are darker than what’s pictured on the website, but not quite as dark as my pics. I picked them up a few months ago. They are a nice, light-weight, light blue wash.

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By the way, if you are looking for a nice pair of shorts, check out the Regiment Indigo Cargo Shorts…

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=90497166&cp=11588650.34428256&ab=ln_men_cs_shorts&parentPage=family

I received them yesterday. Very nice light indigo cargo shorts!
post #25859 of 27138

I am thinking of getting this pair from eBay (link below); is it priced right or over priced? What season/year is it from? (I am a big fan of RRL and have acquired about a couple dozen items in the last 3-4 months, almost all on sale, but am still a noob and all my purchases have been either from the Atlanta store or directly from their website; so I wanted to ask the experts here before purchasing).

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-POLO-RALPH-LAUREN-DOUBLE-RL-RRL-Straight-Fit-Buckle-Back-Rigid-Denim-Jeans-/172160613218?var=&hash=item2815927b62:m:mlaLBiw7mtu5bEssVIHjC4Q

post #25860 of 27138
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Originally Posted by FJCruiser View Post
 

I am thinking of getting this pair from eBay (link below); is it priced right or over priced? What season/year is it from? (I am a big fan of RRL and have acquired about a couple dozen items in the last 3-4 months, almost all on sale, but am still a noob and all my purchases have been either from the Atlanta store or directly from their website; so I wanted to ask the experts here before purchasing).

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-POLO-RALPH-LAUREN-DOUBLE-RL-RRL-Straight-Fit-Buckle-Back-Rigid-Denim-Jeans-/172160613218?var=&hash=item2815927b62:m:mlaLBiw7mtu5bEssVIHjC4Q

Haven't seen this model before, but if you're looking for a straight legged buckleback, i'd say you could get a nicer selvedge RRL pair for around $140 somewhere on ebay

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