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post #25216 of 27173
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Originally Posted by iwhelan View Post


Strangely, I usually wear a 34 length, and these seem to be about what I would expect from a pair of pants in 34 inseam, but they are 32 inseam. I asked if they are sanforized, and the SA said yes, and that they shouldn't really shrink. He suggested treating them like jeans: wash cold, hang dry.

If you have these, have you washed them yet? Did they shrink at all? I'm very happy with the length and if there is any noticeable shrinking in the length, I'll be bummed. I plan on stretching them lengthwise while wet before drying. Also, did they soften up a lot after washing or stay fairly rigid?

I love the cut of these, and the fabric is amazing. I wish my less-expensive J.Crew chinos were in the same cut. Maybe I'll buy more chinos from RRL in the future (on sale next time) if the sizing is somewhat consistent.

There's no doubt that RRL is superior to JCrew - and is priced to reflect that.

I don't have that pant, but I'm sure it'll soften up with wear and washing.
As a general rule I don't wash hot and I always hang dry unless some shrinking is required, then I may put them in the dryer and get them hot - but not for too long.

Good luck with the button - I returned a couple pair that wouldn't button, having decided that the holes were too small or the buttons too thick.

WHITMORE TWILL PANT, INDIGO TWEED:
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post #25217 of 27173
You're certainly right. There is no comparison in quality. The details of these RRL chinos are really great. I simply buy the j.crew chinos for work since I need a bunch of them for travel, and they're acceptable for the cost. I also have a couple pairs of the Epaulet rivet chinos, which are very nice and US-made, but I find slightly them low in the rise compared to the J.Crew and RRL ones, as I am 6'3". I wish the RRL ones were made in the US like the Epaulets though.

We're on the same page with washing/drying, and that's what I do with my all of my pants/denim.

Regarding the buttons, even though they were a real pain in the store, I was able to work on them at home and they're usable now. I had to actually stretch the top button by putting something into the buttonhole overnight. They're still a bit tough, but I think they'll get better over time.
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Originally Posted by jhcam8 View Post

There's no doubt that RRL is superior to JCrew - and is priced to reflect that.

I don't have that pant, but I'm sure it'll soften up with wear and washing.
As a general rule I don't wash hot and I always hang dry unless some shrinking is required, then I may put them in the dryer and get them hot - but not for too long.

Good luck with the button - I returned a couple pair that wouldn't button, having decided that the holes were too small or the buttons too thick.
post #25218 of 27173
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Originally Posted by rrlHEAD View Post

You received something in the mail you didn't order.  No need to return it.  According to US Postal rules, it's yours to keep for free.  If RL doesn't give you a refund, file a dispute with your CC company.

This isn't correct.

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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

That's not how that works.
It's just a run of the mill f up. You return it and get a refund. You don't get to keep it.

This is.
post #25219 of 27173

Got the blanket lined denim;

Thoughts are:

Toasty warm +1

Itchy & I am not a scratchy kinda guy -1

Sizing pretty true to size, a 31 is a 31. +1

Will they stretch ? Probably yes. Should have known better, my bad

Summation, are they as nice as the IH blanket lined coated denim, no at $500 ! But at sub $200 sure why not.....

 

Enjoy...

 

Ps, Drying now after hot soak, the scratchy factor outcome remains to be seen  

post #25220 of 27173
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Originally Posted by Dirty Denim View Post

Bought this a year ago with it almost instantly developing these holes. They are obviously much worse after i washed. Its the D&S version but still pricey when i bought it. Did anyone else experience this with any of the prior and current RRL renditions?







I had the same denim and supply sweater self distress itself in 1 wash as per label instructions. It was the first and last D&S product I will get. In the future if I want something that looks like an RRL sweater, I'll get one.
post #25221 of 27173
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Originally Posted by Mon Dieu View Post

Got the blanket lined denim;
Thoughts are:
Toasty warm +1
Itchy & I am not a scratchy kinda guy -1
Sizing pretty true to size, a 31 is a 31. +1
Will they stretch ? Probably yes. Should have known better, my bad
Summation, are they as nice as the IH blanket lined coated denim, no at $500 ! But at sub $200 sure why not.....

Enjoy...

Ps, Drying now after hot soak, the scratchy factor outcome remains to be seen  

Looking forward to hearing more! My plan if I get it is definitely to wash so your feedback will be helpful.
post #25222 of 27173
I bought the RRL version of that Denim & Supply version posted above. I bought summer 2015 on sale for 350. I only wore it once on New Years eve to the club and its still in excellent condition. I feel as though that its not a sweater that is probably only supposed to be dry cleaned though. I know my sweater will never see the inside of a washing machine.
post #25223 of 27173
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Originally Posted by jhcam8 View Post


This isn't correct.
This is.

This, from the FTC website:

Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?

A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.

There's a reason why, when buyers file an "item not as described" dispute with Paypal or their CC company, they win.  Because that's the law.  You can't be forced to pay for something you didn't order, nor can you be forced to go through the trouble of returning something you didn't order, even if that trouble amounts to no more than stuffing it back in a pre-paid box and leaving it on your doorstep for a pickup.  

post #25224 of 27173
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Originally Posted by boxdok View Post

I bought the RRL version of that Denim & Supply version posted above. I bought summer 2015 on sale for 350. I only wore it once on New Years eve to the club and its still in excellent condition. I feel as though that its not a sweater that is probably only supposed to be dry cleaned though. I know my sweater will never see the inside of a washing machine.

 

The wash only worsened the holes and all 5, yes 5 developed from wear somehow.  They began as some yarns busting but got worse over the last few months.  The button holes have also crapped out.  I have many sweaters including a few with large yarns like this one and none ever had this happen.  

 

It only got a soak by filling up my washer once to shrink its enormous length after gravity stretched the sshit out of it  It got as long as a 3/4 length coat `

post #25225 of 27173
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This, from the FTC website:

Q. Am I obligated to return or pay for merchandise I never ordered?



A. No. If you receive merchandise that you didn’t order, you have a legal right to keep it as a free gift.



There's a reason why, when buyers file an "item not as described" dispute with Paypal or their CC company, they win.  Because that's the law.  You can't be forced to pay for something you didn't order, nor can you be forced to go through the trouble of returning something you didn't order, even if that trouble amounts to no more than stuffing it back in a pre-paid box and leaving it on your doorstep for a pickup.  




Isn't the key concept, "never ordered" = "unsolicited" = "gift"?

But, whatever floats your boat.
post #25226 of 27173
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Originally Posted by Dirty Denim View Post

The wash only worsened the holes and all 5, yes 5 developed from wear somehow.  They began as some yarns busting but got worse over the last few months.  The button holes have also crapped out.  I have many sweaters including a few with large yarns like this one and none ever had this happen.  

It only got a soak by filling up my washer once to shrink its enormous length after gravity stretched the sshit out of it  It got as long as a 3/4 length coat `

That's crazy, I got that sweater last winter when it was on sale and have probably worn it 30+ times, and washed it at least 10 times in washing machine (thrown it n dyer a bunch too) and looks like the day I got it. So weird.
post #25227 of 27173
One of those Power Ball tickets has to hit and then you can step up to a RRL sweater.
post #25228 of 27173
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Originally Posted by John Doe View Post

One of those Power Ball tickets has to hit and then you can step up to a RRL sweater.

 

I honestly felt this one was just a nice as the similar RRL at the time but of course if i had  won the Powerball i would have went with the $800 RRL versions

post #25229 of 27173
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Originally Posted by ImBurningStarIV View Post


That's crazy, I got that sweater last winter when it was on sale and have probably worn it 30+ times, and washed it at least 10 times in washing machine (thrown it n dyer a bunch too) and looks like the day I got it. So weird.

 

I definitely didnt cause the holes ie. got it caught on something and in fact within the 1st few days i noticed a hole right where the security thing was.  I think its because the cotton used on this is comparable to what you would get from a Old Navy or H&M cotton sweater.  Its very dry if that makes sense which may cause friction and the eventual yarns popping??

post #25230 of 27173
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Originally Posted by jhcam8 View Post


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Isn't the key concept, "never ordered" = "unsolicited" = "gift"?

But, whatever floats your boat.

 

People on this forum order a lot of stuff online, and it's important to know our rights as consumers.  This is one area where the law actually works in the consumer's favor.  It was originally intended as a response to record and tape clubs in the 70's that would send unsolicited stuff to customers and then harass them into paying, but today it also applies to receiving items significantly not as described or advertised.  Did he order the wallet RL sent him?  No.  It's that simple.  Frequently, websites use lighting and editing to make things look their best, and when they arrive in the mail, and the colors in person aren't exactly how they seem on the website, that's one thing.  But when the website advertises a smooth wallet, and you receive a completely different wallet in the mail from the one that was pictured, and in this case a wallet without any branding on it whatsoever--no RRL, not even Polo--that's something else entirely.  

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