The Official RRL Thread

[el duderino]

Originally Posted by benchan

Can someone tell me the price for a washed pair of RRL jeans? I see them selling for around 400 USD in a upscale department store outside USA and wonder if there is a markup. I take a look at the collection but nothing really stands out perhps pick up a pair of their chinos when they were on sale.

Markup outside of the US is expected and that doesn't sound too excessive. Varies by model and wash. Recent washes in low straight and slim bootcuts seem to top out around the $365-$385 range. As an example of markup, I stopped by the Harajuku RL mansion when in Japan and officer chinos that would sell for $185 here were tagged at something like 28,500 yen.

 

[London]

Tell em how you really feel Grund!

 

[ss10guy3]

Originally Posted by whodini

RRL is fairly independent from RL. They usually have their own sale seasons/program.
If you're on the friends and family list at RL,will you be on the list at RRL as well? Do you ask at the store or is there a different process? Thanks

 

[theRRshop]

Originally Posted by soundsgood

underground like "we're too good for the internet"?

Yes, the product is good/great, especially the Vintage pieces from 1993-1998... the major reason they don't have a website, is because the pieces are produced in limited quanity, therefore, a website wouldn't do them any real good...


I see 'over producing' happening with the RUGBY 'store/line'. Buyers seem to be qoing crazy (right now) for the RUGBY line, but should keep in mind, this is a trend that eventually will bust...

 

[somatoform]

Originally Posted by theRRshop

I see this 'over producing' happening with the RUGBY 'store/line'. Buyers seem to be qoing crazy (right now) for the RUGBY line, but should keep in mind, this is a trend that eventually will bust... RUGBY prices are high and too many people are wearing RUGBY, thus making everybody looking like 'each-other'.


RRL is limited and it is unlikely you will walk down the street and see anybody else wearing RRL... as for RUGBY, many people pass others on the streets with the same RUGBY piece.

Well, maybe, but, then again, no Rugby cash cow no RRL money loser. The one props the other not vice versa.

 

[oceansaway]

Frankly, I disagree that the "vintage" RRL from 93-98 is superior to the current line. The sizing on the earlier stuff is huge and the denim fits like Dad Jeans.

And, not to be disagreeable, but I also disagree that limited quantity is the main reason behind the no-internet strategy. They produce enough merchandise to sell limited quantities of it on the Ralph Lauren website. They did this before and could do it again. If what they earmarked for sale on the site sold out quickly, well, hey, that only helps the brand.

The no-internet rule, which dovetails with the no-advertising strategy, seems to be about something else...maybe about creating an aura of exclusivity around the product. In interviews, Ralph has occasionally used the word "cult" when discussing the line.

The strategy may be effective, but I think the company takes it too far.

 

[oboy_oboy]

I'd be curious to learn how "limited" the limited edition of RRL each season really is. They have multiple stand alone retail locations across the country, a number of vendors, and the backing of an enormous global brand. this notion that somehow RRL is truly hard to come by is a little trumped up. it's like how Dom Perignon is seen as "exclusive" and "limited", or at least it was. until it was case stacked at Costcos from coast to coast.

don't get me wrong: i dig RRL. and after discovering it, i really love to few pieces i've treated myself to, but i can't really believe that somehow they're only making 100 selvage oxfords, etc.

 

[Lynx_the_one]

Originally Posted by oboy_oboy

I'd be curious to learn how "limited" the limited edition of RRL each season really is. They have multiple stand alone retail locations across the country, a number of vendors, and the backing of an enormous global brand. this notion that somehow RRL is truly hard to come by is a little trumped up. it's like how Dom Perignon is seen as "exclusive" and "limited", or at least it was. until it was case stacked at Costcos from coast to coast.

don't get me wrong: i dig RRL. and after discovering it, i really love to few pieces i've treated myself to, but i can't really believe that somehow they're only making 100 selvage oxfords, etc.

How many stores sell polo? How many stores sell purple label? How many stores sell Gucci or Prada or any of those brands, which have websites and are well known compared to RRL?

 

[Meis]

Originally Posted by theRRshop

Yes, the product is good/great, especially the Vintage pieces from 1993-1998 (I carry mostly vintage RRL http://www.therrshop.com )... the major reason they don't have a website, is because the pieces are produced in limited quanity, therefore, a website wouldn't do them any real good...

As a RRL Collector, I like the limited supply, and the fact that you have to discover RRL, or learn about it through others.... if everyone started wearing RRL then the line would not be so attractive to the collectors, and serious RRL buyers... (I myself only wear RRL... nothing else.)

I see this 'over producing' happening with the RUGBY 'store/line'. Buyers seem to be qoing crazy (right now) for the RUGBY line, but should keep in mind, this is a trend that eventually will bust... RUGBY prices are high and too many people are wearing RUGBY, thus making everybody looking like 'each-other'.


RRL is limited and it is unlikely you will walk down the street and see anybody else wearing RRL... as for RUGBY, many people pass others on the streets with the same RUGBY piece.


You have to be as unique as RRL to keep on top with the likes of Chanel, and Gucci..

What "over producing" of Rugby are you talking about? There's only a total of 11 Rugby stores and I find it hard to believe that they're getting a huge amount of online. I've almost never seen anyone wearing rugby's stuff and when I go into the store near me (Chicago) its never crowded.. at most 2-3 people and often times no one at all. So I don't think too many people are wearing it...

oh, and +1 to the stuff the other guy said, the 93-98 stuff often seems to have fucked up sizing

 

[el duderino]

Originally Posted by oboy_oboy

I'd be curious to learn how "limited" the limited edition of RRL each season really is. They have multiple stand alone retail locations across the country, a number of vendors, and the backing of an enormous global brand. this notion that somehow RRL is truly hard to come by is a little trumped up. it's like how Dom Perignon is seen as "exclusive" and "limited", or at least it was. until it was case stacked at Costcos from coast to coast.
Some of the seasonal items really are produced in limited quantities. I wanted one a particular Summit hoodie and both boutiques and RRL stores only got small quantities in random sizes and it sold out quick. Same goes for the selvage officer chinos. I had called to source some in my size right as the new SS10 collection were arriving and they immediately sold out.

 

[theRRshop]

Originally Posted by Meis

What "over producing" of Rugby are you talking about? There's only a total of 11 Rugby stores and I find it hard to believe that they're getting a huge amount of online. I've almost never seen anyone wearing rugby's stuff and when I go into the store near me (Chicago) its never crowded.. at most 2-3 people and often times no one at all. So I don't think too many people are wearing it...

oh, and +1 to the stuff the other guy said, the 93-98 stuff often seems to have fucked up sizing

Most Ralph Lauren stores have Rugby, and many department stores, it's spead too wide, and soon will fall to the level of "the Polo Jeans company' which is just a notch above the 'chaps' line....

 

[theRRshop]

Originally Posted by el duderino

Some of the seasonal items really are produced in limited quantities.


That is good for us that Collect RRL, if he ever went main stream with the line it would be the end of it as we know it..

 

[theRRshop]

Originally Posted by oceansaway

Frankly, I disagree that the "vintage" RRL from 93-98 is superior to the current line. The sizing on the earlier stuff is huge and the denim fits like Dad Jeans.


The vintage 1993-1998 items still gets better with age, and have that old country feeling.... therefore they are broken in like they should be.... the newer stuff is fine, but will take some time to break in, like your favorite pair of jeans... the vintage stuff is already broken in, ready to continue wearing...

 

[oceansaway]

Originally Posted by theRRshop

All Ralph Lauren stores have Rugby, and many department stores, it's spead too wide, and soon will fall to the level of "the Polo Jeans company' which is just a notch above the 'chaps' line....
Ok, well, there's a few inaccuracies here I need to respond to. I currently live in southeast Asia, so perhaps I'm slightly out of touch, but since when did Ralph Lauren main line stores start carrying Rugby? And what department stores carry it? None that I'm aware of. The last time I was in the US, last summer, only Rugby stores carried Rugby merchandise. Second, since purchasing the Polo Jeans license back from Jones Apparel a few years ago, RL has relaunched the brand in Asia and (I think) Europe. Here in Singapore, there's several free-standing Polo Jeans stores and the merchandise isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Most of it isn't my cup of tea -- like Rugby it caters to a younger set -- but Chaps it ain't.

 

[theRRshop]

Originally Posted by oceansaway

Ok, well, there's a few inaccuracies here I need to respond to. I currently live in southeast Asia, so perhaps I'm slightly out of touch, but since when did Ralph Lauren main line stores start carrying Rugby? And what department stores carry it? None that I'm aware of. The last time I was in the US, last summer, only Rugby stores carried Rugby merchandise.

Second, since purchasing the Polo Jeans license back from Farah a few years ago, RL has relaunched the brand in Asia and (I think) Europe. Here in Singapore, there's several free-standing Polo Jeans stores and the merchandise isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Most of it isn't my cup of tea -- like Rugby it caters to a younger set -- but Chaps it ain't.

Oh since you live in Asia, maybe you don't see how spead it is out here, for example in many cities, a Rugby store is right across the street from Polo Ralph Lauren Store...