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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

Al gets flack from Yelp, but Yelp is pretty useless for a lot of things.  He has done some cool stuff over the years, though sometimes I've found his quality to be lacking compared to other "workshops".  

 

The denim is not bad (I used to wear it a lot, until the slimfit got to be uncomfortably low rise),. but it's just not to the level, in terms of being "interesting", as that used by any number of Japanese repro companies.  I like it because the Japanese denim has that black blue color that I like, but the color is not particularly complex, and the denim itself is pedestrian.  I always bought the Japanese denim when it was $210, then $260, but I also know a lot of retailers, and usually got it for well under $200.  At the current prices for the Cone denim, I prefer something like 3Sixteen, which is just as well made (pretty much the same group of LA factories, with about the same spec levels, make all those made in USA jeans), and for $360, I can get any number of Japanese brands for that or lower, at American retail, many of which are making jeans with cuts that are more "modern" now.  Previously, Japanese repro jeans were not well cut for North American and European body shapes, but with more and more making jeans for specialty retailers like www.blueowl.us, SelfEdge, and BlueinGreen, there are now choices.  If you want, at that price, and if care, you can also get jeans with all sorts of bells and whistles that I personally don't care about, like selvedge at the fly.


I agree with most of what you say, but I wouldn't write off RRL denim as simply pedestrian. I agree when it was $210 it was a better deal a few years back, but with inflation and intricacies of running a billion dollar company that offers hassle free unlimited returns, will have additional expenses that a niche brand like N&F, Flat Head or PBJ don't have to deal with and I don't mind paying a premium, even if it sometimes a huge premium. Plus, I don't think RL wants their RRL jeans cannibalizing sales from the PRL/D&S China selvedge jeans that are $185. Just like with luxury cars, there will be a 20% yuppie tax.


Personally I don't really go for the Repro brands anymore compared to a few years ago. I am looking for more subtle jeans these days without irregular texture and highly streaky fades that repro brands like to emphasize. In fact I dislike most denim with a slubby and looser weave.

 

Nobody can really blame someone for buying a Subaru instead of a Lexus if they are well informed and don't need any embellishments.

 

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 3) it shrinks but it supposedly sanforized (yes I've washed/soaked in hot/cold/medium etc...)

All sanforized denim shrinks 2-5%.

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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post



I'm not a huge fan of bespoke.  I do MTO stuff if there are specific details I'd like to tweak, and I do MTM if someone doesn't carry my size, but I am not a great designer, and part of the fun of shopping is discovering something awesome that you would never have thought of before, of that you would have overlooked if you hadn't seen it styled properly.

RRL, J.Crew, a lot the designers go to the same places to buy "inspiration" pieces, so it's hardly surprising that they come up with similar designs.  if you go to Bobby of Boston, in the South End, you'll see what I mean.  A lot of those guys go there to buy vintage, and then remake it, tweaking for modern bodies and their own brand's sensibilities.  


The Yelp reviews for Al's are a bit of a running joke for those of us locally who know *how* to use him. Like any tailor, some have skills in one area and might not be so good in others. I use him for workwear, jackets, vests, and accessories. If you are detailed oriented with him and can provide pictures of what you want, he will bend over backwards to get it right and his prices for bespoke are very, very reasonable, esp if you provide the fabric.

re: Levi's LVC and boots for RRL - Al is one of the best boot makers in the country (how he got his start) - as good as that Julian guy who RRL used for several years. He's got a Goodyear welting machine in the back room and the construction on his work boots is INSANELY bombproof. Here's a picture of the boots he made for the Levi's collaboration.

btw, Al's Attire is not in the Mission as RRL_Clothing said, it's in North Beach on Grant Street (one of the coolest street's in SF) across the street from Cafe Trieste where Francis Ford Coppola wrote part of the movie The Godfather (and where FFC still shows up on occasion) and down the street from ABFits, which regularly hosts events with many of the best Japanese and American workwear brands (DenimBruin etc).

Tim Burton actually rented Al's Attire's storefront for a weekend when they shot a recent movie in town and Helena Bonham Carter and Tim both had Al make them clothing while they were here

He's a tailor that gets workwear which is a rare find these days outside the realm of workwear brands who don't allow much customization (although the JackKnife guys in SF are great, too)
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Got my Olive Aviator vest in a little while back.. and that Type2 I was searching for that sold out online.

 

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That rrl leather patch tho...idk to me rrl just makes the most sense its authentic
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RRL new Hong Kong store

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Originally Posted by NorCal_1 View Post

for those of you who want close-up pictures of RRL pieces, there are several Japanese retailers that post their own pictures taken from several angles so you can see the details front and back

nice to see the Limited Edition stuff, too

worth bookmarking:


http://www.rad-nyc.com/

http://www.rhythm-fuk.com/shopping/rrl.html

http://foober.ocnk.net/index.php/product-list/5?page=5

saved for later, thanks!
there's also this one, hasnt been updated in a while but some goodies.
http://www.flickriver.com/groups/1155667@N24/pool/interesting/
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

The crotch in my jeans blow out well before that happens.  Plus, I don't usually go commando in raw denim...  Sounds slightly painful, selvedge fly or not.

Oh thats so true when going commando. last time my scrotum got caught in between the button fly when i sat down. I also stopped wearing zip fly jeans because when you're in a rush after going to the toilet, and you zip up carelessly, then ooohhhhh..... Oh, i can't bear to talk about it anymore.....
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Oh thats so true when going commando. last time my scrotum got caught in between the button fly when i sat down. I also stopped wearing zip fly jeans because when you're in a rush after going to the toilet, and you zip up carelessly, then ooohhhhh..... Oh, i can't bear to talk about it anymore.....

That is way too much information for a Sunday evening.  Friday, after a few drinks, maybe.

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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post



RRL, J.Crew, a lot the designers go to the same places to buy "inspiration" pieces, so it's hardly surprising that they come up with similar designs.  if you go to Bobby of Boston, in the South End, you'll see what I mean.  A lot of those guys go there to buy vintage, and then remake it, tweaking for modern bodies and their own brand's sensibilities.  

Bobbys is an amazing place to walk into. IIts got the aesthetic of entering an RRL store but everything isnt reproductions of vintage clothing. When i was living in Lynn, MA the Bobbys warehouse was across the street from my house. It was closed to the public but you can get in on appointment. I know tons of designers source from there.
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Those bags are fantastic. I bought a couple to give as presents. I'll post some pictures when I get them.

Did you get those bags? Lets see some pics
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fyi....


Associate Designer, RRL

Company: Polo Ralph Lauren
Location: New York City, NY
Date Posted: April, 29 2014
Source: Job.com
Ralph Lauren Corporation (NYSE: RL) is a leader in the design, marketing and distribution of premium lifestyle products in four categories: apparel, home, accessories and fragrances. For more than 44 years, Ralph Lauren's reputation and distinctive image have been consistently developed across an expanding number of products, brands and international markets. Purpose/Scope: Assisting the Knits Design Director during all stages of the design and development process Responsibilities: * Prep Design boards for internal design meetings with SVP of RRL Design as well as presentations to the merchandising/buying teams. * Create Illustrator Sketches * Assist with Wash Development, Label and Photograph wash standards * Size and Send Artwork and Graphics * Create Seasonal Artwork Chart * Organize and maintain fabric library * Organize and maintain vintage design library * Vintage research of new design ideas to support seasonal concepts * Daily correspondence with HK factories * Color Matching and maintaining color swatches * Partner with Art Department to maintain and update Stats. * Create seasonal stat binders Requirements: Bachelors Degree in Design3 years of professional work experience in the fashion industry Knits experience preferredPassion for and understanding of vintage clothingStrong communication skills, professional and organizedProficient in Web PDM, Excel, Outlook, Word, Quark, Photoshop and Illustrator Ralph Lauren is an equal opportunity employer. We offer dynamic career opportunities with growth potential and a generous company discount.
Edited by NorCal_1 - 6/23/14 at 10:35am
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A few RRL items are currently on sale at Unionmade.
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Just bought an RRL denim shirt with the snap buttons and a chunky metal button at the top. But the top button seems to be dangling and hanging by a few pieces of thread, and it is pretty heavy..has anyone's top button ever fallen off? Is this normal with their denim shirts

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Originally Posted by amgwhip123 View Post

Just bought an RRL denim shirt with the snap buttons and a chunky metal button at the top. But the top button seems to be dangling and hanging by a few pieces of thread, and it is pretty heavy..has anyone's top button ever fallen off? Is this normal with their denim shirts

It happens, and it's not limited to shirts (happened on sweaters and pants of mine). Unfortunately you just have to sew it on stronger.
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