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post #16396 of 20082
I find most RRL to be pretty middle of the road quality wise. Better than J Crew but considering the huge price difference I would hope so. I've had to return a number of shirts I ordered from RRL that had holes in them right out of the package...I think they distressed them a little too much. But, they do some things that are great. I have a flannel shirt that I love the fabric on and I've yet to find chinos that are made better than my selvage officer chinos. But, a lot of their stuff seems pretty overpriced to me and while I liked their denim, I found the construction quality to be a little lacking compared to many others.

They do some great designs and have a nice aesthetic though, so often times their stuff can still be worth it.
post #16397 of 20082
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ha, i watched this just last night and I was thinking the same thing. good catch

is that the deer skin jacket?

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post #16398 of 20082
Anybody purchase the polo bear sweater? All sizes sold out except Medium.
post #16399 of 20082
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Anybody purchase the polo bear sweater? All sizes sold out except Medium.

I thought about it but I decided against it. I went with a cable knit on sale instead, more my style
post #16400 of 20082

Wallace and Barnes stuff looks decent. It's Cone denim (like RRL) made in the USA (like RRL) but the price is still $50 cheaper.

 

They have lots of collabs like Lee, LVC, Canton Japan, so the quality would be what you would expect from those brands. Price of washed jeans is about $298 vs $360-420 from RRL.

post #16401 of 20082
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Anybody purchase the polo bear sweater? All sizes sold out except Medium.

 

Way overpriced...if they brought back the American Indian designs and stadiums then I will nudge...but the polo bears...tempting but easy pass 

post #16402 of 20082
Could someone help me understand why RL uses "American Indian" heads/faces on his clothing? Why is it so popular with RRL fans?
post #16403 of 20082
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Could someone help me understand why RL uses "American Indian" heads/faces on his clothing? Why is it so popular with RRL fans?
Part of Americana? The indian head sweater is one of the most sought after vintage RL pieces.

Can't believe the bear knit sold out so quick. It was priced a lot higher than the vintage ones go for on ebay.
post #16404 of 20082
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Could someone help me understand why RL uses "American Indian" heads/faces on his clothing? Why is it so popular with RRL fans?

 

Base on what I found

 

"1981 - The Santa Fe collection debuts. Lauren draws on the patterns and colors of the Navajo Indians and the American Southwest with concho belts, petticoat skirts, Indian patterned sweaters and blanket jackets. As with his Westernwear collection, Lauren captures the essence of the American cultural experience, forging a connection between Polo Ralph Lauren and the romance of the American West and launching a major fashion look with worldwide influence and appeal."

post #16405 of 20082
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Perhaps it is merely romantic idealization of a time when practical white men had freedom over their destiny and the promise of danger was tempered with the opportunity of great personal wealth and self-actualization. Contrasted with the safe, boring and controlled lifestyles that most middle--class Americans "endure" today, the Native American is less a symbol of an exploited and subjugated people and more a personification of the repressed desires latently suppressed in your average middle aged desk jockey; who dons a $300 sweatshirt emblazoned with Sitting Bull's visage to make him feel like, just maybe, a little of that trail blazing pioneer spirit still resides in some deep, recessed part of his genetic makeup.

 

Or maybe they just like American Indians.

Channel your inner Hemingway, and not Kant.

 

Though unclear after the first sentence, I get what you're trying to express and respectfully disagree.

post #16406 of 20082
Exploitation and abuse of Native Americans is an accurate representation of American tradition. It's pure Americana.
post #16407 of 20082
Nice work, Namor.
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post #16408 of 20082

I want a Polo American flag sweater before I want a bear or an Indian head one.

 

I think Ralph has incorporated Indian heads (more an Americana thing than an Indian thing... think Washington Redskins) the same reason he incorporates military, Himalayan, Oriental (for lack of a better word), Western, Indian, greaser, workman, and Ivy League prep imagery: because its cool and feels classic.

post #16409 of 20082
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Which point do you disagree with, urbanwoodsman? (the user name is quite telling, btw)

 

If you're writing to be critical of an all American, white brand using visages of Native Americans on sweatshirts to stimulate a white man's suppressed visions of expansion (pillaging), then I can agree with you.

 

"The user name is quite telling, btw." I volunteered to chop wood in a small New Jersey town after a hurricane and because I was from New York they called me the "City Woodsman." I obviously changed it around a bit.

post #16410 of 20082
Considering to kop a pair of denim Officer´s, should i size like in raw officer´s?
Anyboday has seen the Deadstock road chino? How they fit compared to Officer chinos?
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