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^^ One could argue, for example, that the company risks cannibalizing sales of RRL with the launch of the Denim & Supply line.
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finally saw This Is The End over teh weekend. jonah hill rocking all rrl

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^^ One could argue, for example, that the company risks cannibalizing sales of RRL with the launch of the Denim & Supply line.
I'd argue they are at different price points.
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finally saw This Is The End over teh weekend. jonah hill rocking all rrl
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ha, i watched this just last night and I was thinking the same thing. good catch

is that the deer skin jacket?
post #16370 of 23181
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Yea man, fuck J. Crew for copying a pair of repro chinos that are a direct reproduction of a pant that dozens of different firms (not including Ralph Lauren!) produced for years and years. You can't complain about copying in the repro market when literally everything is already a copy.

i guess my contention is this and It may have changed over the past several years: j.crew being of lower quality than even Polo Ralph Lauren and yet they are charging a higher price than the RRL staple they ripped off? i think the steady price increases at j.crew are more a function of a healthier economy rather than increased quality. in my mind and i think in the minds of many cost-conscious rrl fans, alternative options are always welcome but not at a premium, and certainly not for lesser quality
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I'd argue they are at different price points.

I wholeheartedly agree, given the considerable difference in price points between the products in each line. Denim & Supply also positions itself to appeal to a younger audience. At the same time, it offers some pieces with a similar aesthetic, and it purports to take inspiration from "vintage" and "heritage" clothing. Purists and enthusiasts may scoff at the lower quality, cheaper materials, countries of origin, &c., but there's clearly some crossover appeal.
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i guess my contention is this and It may have changed over the past several years: j.crew being of lower quality than even Polo Ralph Lauren and yet they are charging a higher price than the RRL staple they ripped off? i think the steady price increases at j.crew are more a function of a healthier economy rather than increased quality. in my mind and i think in the minds of many cost-conscious rrl fans, alternative options are always welcome but not at a premium, and certainly not for lesser quality

Couple points:

1. Wallace & Barnes is J. Crew's 'higher end' line. Doesn't mean it's higher quality, though, but important to note.
2. Is RRL high quality? Why? Most of the stuff is Made in China. Most of the fabrics are pretty chintzy too.

Also does anyone have a list of US RRL stockists? Trying to track down an item (for those curious, the Slim Fit chinos in Beige, 32 waist). I've tried Context, Blake, Unionmade and the RRL stores.
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

Couple points:

1. Wallace & Barnes is J. Crew's 'higher end' line. Doesn't mean it's higher quality, though, but important to note.
2. Is RRL high quality? Why? Most of the stuff is Made in China. Most of the fabrics are pretty chintzy too.

Also does anyone have a list of US RRL stockists? Trying to track down an item (for those curious, the Slim Fit chinos in Beige, 32 waist). I've tried Context, Blake, Unionmade and the RRL stores.

^ cant think of any other stockists

comparing just 2 large clothing retailers: yes RRL quality is higher than Jcrew. ill have to wait to check out of the jcrew chino firsthand to make sure i dont sound like a bigger idiot
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

i guess my contention is this and It may have changed over the past several years: j.crew being of lower quality than even Polo Ralph Lauren and yet they are charging a higher price than the RRL staple they ripped off? i think the steady price increases at j.crew are more a function of a healthier economy rather than increased quality. in my mind and i think in the minds of many cost-conscious rrl fans, alternative options are always welcome but not at a premium, and certainly not for lesser quality

To be fair, J Crew's "Wallace and Barnes" line is supposedly of higher quality than standard J Crew. They do source materials / products from a lot of the same sources as other popular brands, so these may be good quality. However, they are probably lower quality than RRL. That said, RRL is generally significantly more expensive than any J Crew (Wallace and Barnes included). RRL sweaters generally start at $400 for wool, outerwear costs $600 or more, denim starts at $225 or more, etc; J Crew prices are half of these typically.

Overall, J Crew tends to be lower quality and lower price than Polo Ralph Lauren, but both are good for mass market (full disclosure, I buy a ton of both). I have purchased sweaters at 25% off from both brands recently, and Ralph Lauren is more expensive and better quality, but both were good values IMO.
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2. Is RRL high quality? Why? Most of the stuff is Made in China. Most of the fabrics are pretty chintzy too.

RRL makes great denim, sweaters, chinos, flannels. The construction and durability are good. My go to winter flannel was bought three years ago, shetland wool sweaters maintain their shape, denim and chinos break in well, etc. They used to make great OCBD but apparently those aren't as good anymore. Their outerwear and footwear look good but I don't own any. Most of their stuff is made in China, but there is some good stuff made in China (outside of shoes I don't really care where stuff is made).
post #16376 of 23181
I find most RRL to be pretty middle of the road quality wise. Better than J Crew but considering the huge price difference I would hope so. I've had to return a number of shirts I ordered from RRL that had holes in them right out of the package...I think they distressed them a little too much. But, they do some things that are great. I have a flannel shirt that I love the fabric on and I've yet to find chinos that are made better than my selvage officer chinos. But, a lot of their stuff seems pretty overpriced to me and while I liked their denim, I found the construction quality to be a little lacking compared to many others.

They do some great designs and have a nice aesthetic though, so often times their stuff can still be worth it.
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ha, i watched this just last night and I was thinking the same thing. good catch

is that the deer skin jacket?

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Anybody purchase the polo bear sweater? All sizes sold out except Medium.
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Anybody purchase the polo bear sweater? All sizes sold out except Medium.

I thought about it but I decided against it. I went with a cable knit on sale instead, more my style
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Wallace and Barnes stuff looks decent. It's Cone denim (like RRL) made in the USA (like RRL) but the price is still $50 cheaper.

 

They have lots of collabs like Lee, LVC, Canton Japan, so the quality would be what you would expect from those brands. Price of washed jeans is about $298 vs $360-420 from RRL.

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