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Originally Posted by Farhad19620 View Post

I love the RRL brand and have quite a few items of clothing from them but here in the UK I have never found any on sale at the outlets?

I will be visiting NYC in November and would love to know which outlets there carry RRL

If you're just looking for outlets, you will have to travel outside NYC. Woodbury Commons, which is a 1hr drive north of NYC, has been known to have RRL from time to time. Hit or miss though.
post #15992 of 23738
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Originally Posted by Farhad19620 View Post

I love the RRL brand and have quite a few items of clothing from them but here in the UK I have never found any on sale at the outlets?

I will be visiting NYC in November and would love to know which outlets there carry RRL

Woodbury Commons should have shit bunch of stuffs.

 

Just call before you go.

post #15993 of 23738
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Originally Posted by stu00a View Post

Woodbury Commons should have shit bunch of stuffs.

Just call before you go.

They have a bunch but the prices arent great (for outlets) and the selection is mediocre. If youre size Large and want some thermals or henleys or size 34 Slim Bootcut jeans then youll be in luck
post #15994 of 23738

Nice belt. What belt is that?

 

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Originally Posted by gnatty8 View Post

RRL, RRL, RRL, and Alden:

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

Actually I am mistaken, it is the other way around. Here is what someone who has both had to say about it. I have not compared the new SF Japan Rigids to the old ones personally so I can't comment. I know that both versions are very good and soon they will all be gone and replaced with that Cone stuff.


I'm no denim expert but I've handled a few pairs of Japanese produced jeans and I definitely preferred the new fabric but I wouldn't say the old one is worse, they were just different. The old fabric is definitely better than Cone or APC denim obviously, but personally I preferred the new version. I don't know if they're different oz. or what, but the old one definitely feels lighter/thinner.

Also, has anyone had a chance to see this messenger in person?



Lastly, I was wondering if there a way to search what the Icon Core items are, specifically the ones that don't go on sale like the Rigid Officer Chino, Raw denim, leather rucksack, black henley...
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Originally Posted by Sym View Post

I'm no denim expert but I've handled a few pairs of Japanese produced jeans and I definitely preferred the new fabric but I wouldn't say the old one is worse, they were just different. The old fabric is definitely better than Cone or APC denim obviously, but personally I preferred the new version. I don't know if they're different oz. or what, but the old one definitely feels lighter/thinner.

Also, has anyone had a chance to see this messenger in person?



Lastly, I was wondering if there a way to search what the Icon Core items are, specifically the ones that don't go on sale like the Rigid Officer Chino, Raw denim, leather rucksack, black henley...

Genuine question here: What is bad or inferior about Cone denim? What little I have read about them has been positive, except in this thread.

Is it that people were really happy with the Japanese RRL denim and don't want a change, or is there something noticeably worse or cheap about Cone denim?

Thanks,
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Cone denim is fine...but it's just kinda boring. All of it I've handled has felt a little cheap, kinda like APC denim, very blah. I don't think it's poor quality, just doesn't elicit much excitement.
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Yeah every pair of Cone I've handled has felt cheap. Flimsy fabric which feels kind if thin and insubstantial - this goes for both the lighter and thinner weights for some reason. I realize it has its place in the world of denim, I just wish it wasn't at RRL.
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Has anyone seen anything like this?  The cuff detail makes me think it's on purpose, since the side seam stitching stops about 3/4" short of the cuff, then is reinforced.

I'm going to the pros because I'm not an expert and I'm going to be listing this item.  The front crease is stitched.  The tag says made in Japan, but it also says something about indigo on the back of the tag, even though it's not denim.  Thanks in advance for your help in the model/description section.

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post #16000 of 23738
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Originally Posted by Sym View Post

I'm no denim expert but I've handled a few pairs of Japanese produced jeans and I definitely preferred the new fabric but I wouldn't say the old one is worse, they were just different. The old fabric is definitely better than Cone or APC denim obviously, but personally I preferred the new version. I don't know if they're different oz. or what, but the old one definitely feels lighter/thinner.

Also, has anyone had a chance to see this messenger in person?



Lastly, I was wondering if there a way to search what the Icon Core items are, specifically the ones that don't go on sale like the Rigid Officer Chino, Raw denim, leather rucksack, black henley...

I saw the messenger in person last weekend in Georgetown, was very nice and something I plan on buying once it goes on sale. Has two separated compartments, large enough to carry a 15" laptop from the looks of it. Definitely more of a portfolio briefcase than a hard shell briefcase, and less of a messenger bag than the deerfield vachetta messenger bag, rather it's more sturdy and structured. Just outside my price range, although the SA told me it was $795 in store for some reason, online it shows it as $595, I'm still going to wait on the private sale in November to try and grab it for $360 or so, hopefully. The one in the store had a little bit of distressing/scratches that I am guessing will be inconsistent among the entire production, and possibly over time or with care will blend in.
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I have to respectfully disagree with some of what's being said about Cone Denim. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1936 RRL buckle-back jeans were produced in Cone Mills, and the denim used is beautiful. It's ultimately a matter of preference; saying Cone produces an all-around inferior product is incorrect, though. 

 

Side question: anyone here into high-waisted buckle-back jeans? I'll post some pics of what I mean. 

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I thought there were two version of buckle back, older ones on Japanese denim, newer ones on cone denim
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Originally Posted by aldenfan View Post


Thanks. The belt is RRL.
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Originally Posted by clee1982 View Post

I thought there were two version of buckle back, older ones on Japanese denim, newer ones on cone denim

The bucklebacks i have here are Japanese.
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The Slim Fit 1936 Bucklebacks from about 2-3 seasons ago are Japanese. The new ones are Cone and no comparison.

 

A lot of ubiquitous labels are using Cone denim, it's cheaper and they can sell the whole "Support the USA" thing which is their only selling point, because those labels typically lack heritage & style or are still very small workshops.

 

As far as I know Cone doesn't make heavy denim, like 21oz and pretty much all the indigo used is synthetic. They also source the cotton from the USA, instead of Zimbabwe, which has the extra long staple cottons. I've also never seen any stunning fades from any Tellason, Jack Spade, Levis Made in USA, LVC, etc.

 

It also lacks the prestige of Japanese denim to me. But since the majority of people paying retail for RRL jeans are Asian, perhaps they find Cone denim to be prestigious and exotic though that may not be the case as they were discounting the Cone Slim Straight for $159.

 

At the $200 price range Cone will get the job done, but these will always be my dream pants.


Edited by RRL CLOTHING - 9/4/13 at 8:27am
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