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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post


Just as "Navajo Nation" threatened to sue me, and is suing UO for millions because they advertise "Navajo" themed clothing that is not made by actual Navajo and own copyright on the word Navajo. It's currently going to the Supreme Court...

Maybe they'll sue Jeep next, once they trademark "Cherokee."

i thought that was a joke when that seller messaged me. i called ebay to be on the safe side, and the rep assured me that i had nothing to worry about. a few days later my listing is taken down bc i used the word "navajo" in the title. so annoying.
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Nice pic. Wish I could pull off the necktie but I end up looking like a gay cowboy. Probably due to lack of big fuck off beard.

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Originally Posted by alex99 View Post

A pic of some of the FW pieces my sales rep sent from the SF store...I like the lower right jacket.


Really like that shawl cardigan on the right in this picture. Thought it was pretty cool how you can button it in a couple of different points to give it a slightly different look. Ended up buying the band collar workshirt yesterday.




Was really impressed by a lot of the new season collections. Some of the suiting and tweeds are out of this world. There's a great navy flannel with a chalk stripe (I think). The material is amazing, so soft. The only disappointment to me is that it was double breasted, which isn't really something I'm after at the minute but there was about 3 or 4 other amazing suits including a grey flannel that was similar to one they ran last year and a grey window pane. Almost forgot but there was an absolutely stunning navy top coat. Serious money but looked like it was worth every penny to me.

I can see me picking up the following trousers too. For a herringbone tweed it was remarkably soft. There was a matching vest too but I didn't see a jacket, anyone know if there is one available in the same fabric?

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Originally Posted by Jagger_On View Post


Nice pic. Wish I could pull off the necktie but I end up looking like a gay cowboy. Probably due to lack of big fuck off beard.
Really like that shawl cardigan on the right in this picture. Thought it was pretty cool how you can button it in a couple of different points to give it a slightly different look. Ended up buying the band collar workshirt yesterday.




Was really impressed by a lot of the new season collections. Some of the suiting and tweeds are out of this world. There's a great navy flannel with a chalk stripe (I think). The material is amazing, so soft. The only disappointment to me is that it was double breasted, which isn't really something I'm after at the minute but there was about 3 or 4 other amazing suits including a grey flannel that was similar to one they ran last year and a grey window pane. Almost forgot but there was an absolutely stunning navy top coat. Serious money but looked like it was worth every penny to me.

I can see me picking up the following trousers too. For a herringbone tweed it was remarkably soft. There was a matching vest too but I didn't see a jacket, anyone know if there is one available in the same fabric?


While I agree that the above Tweed pants are beautiful, I just can't see myself spending $490.00 on something made in China (or any other part of Southeast Asia, for that matter).

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You wouldn't spend $490 on these pants no matter where they came from.

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

You wouldn't spend $490 on these pants no matter where they came from.


You're probably right. Would you?

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No, because tweed pants are too geriatric for my tastes.

 

The point is, if these pants came from Italy or France they would easily cost over $1k. It doesn't even matter where it's constructed, the fabrics and design is what's important and RL's China plants have high quality standards. There is cheap China clothing and expensive China clothing just like there is cheap USA made and expensive. I'm tired of the China bashing that comes into play here every few months.

 

Furthermore, two posts don't go by in this thread without mentioning SilvioB or outlets. I sincerely doubt anyone in this thread has ever paid MSRP for anything.

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

No, because tweed pants are too geriatric for my tastes.

The point is, if these pants came from Italy or France they would easily cost over $1k. It doesn't even matter where it's constructed, the fabrics and design is what's important and RL's China plants have high quality standards. There is cheap China clothing and expensive China clothing just like there is cheap USA made and expensive. I'm tired of the China bashing that comes into play here every few months.

Furthermore, two posts don't go by in this thread without mentioning SilvioB or outlets. I sincerely doubt anyone in this thread has ever paid MSRP for anything.

RRL is part of the American feel nostalgic about the good old days brand, China bashing is quite inevitable by that definition..., though I agree with you about RL's China plants has high quality standard. I have two made in China Officer Chino (9.23oz, and 11.? oz) both are constructed well and hold well so far.

edit: I certainly never paid anything MSRP...
Edited by clee1982 - 8/26/13 at 10:44am
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What's up all? I'm new to this forum and already I'm asking for favors, lol but.......
Can anyone help me find this in XXL? Did they even make it in a XXL?
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What's up all? I'm new to this forum and already I'm asking for favors, lol but.......
Can anyone help me find this in XXL? Did they even make it in a XXL?

Call W. Broadway or Melrose to see if they any in stock.
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Originally Posted by robbase View Post



What's up all? I'm new to this forum and already I'm asking for favors, lol but.......
Can anyone help me find this in XXL? Did they even make it in a XXL?

call them, or try it in XL? RL has great return policy
post #15821 of 21629
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Originally Posted by clee1982 View Post


RRL is part of the American feel nostalgic about the good old days brand, China bashing is quite inevitable by that definition..., though I agree with you about RL's China plants has high quality standard. I have two made in China Officer Chino (9.23oz, and 11.? oz) both are constructed well and hold well so far.

edit: I certainly never paid anything MSRP...


But nobody seems to have a problem with RRL using Japanese fabrics or when older stuff was Made in Japan. China bashing is ignorant. Especially when you can get "Union made" jeans for $39 bucks. What's that say about USA made when China manufactures better quality, far better looking clothing and get away with charging 10x more money?

 

Polo is "American Classic" clothing made in China. The public at large doesn't care where it's made and it's made RL a billionaire. As long as RL can stay competitive among other designers, I don't see a problem with it.

 

RRL isn't a special, exclusive brand that everyone wants and nobody can attain. It's now a mass produced heritage label that makes replicas of historical archives of vintage clothing as well as casual contemporary stuff, a good blend of East and West coast clothing, formal wear, and some British military stuff, nothing more. They are basically the clothing equivalent of buying Taiwan reps of BBS wheels. Seemingly expensive to most, but still cheap compared to the real deal. /rant

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post


But nobody seems to have a problem with RRL using Japanese fabrics or when older stuff was Made in Japan. China bashing is ignorant. Especially when you can get "Union made" jeans for $39 bucks. What's that say about USA made when China can manufacturers better quality, far better looking clothing and get away with charging 10x more money?

Polo is "American Classic" clothing made in China. The public at large doesn't care where it's made and it's made RL a billionaire. As long as RL can stay competitive among other designers, I don't see a problem with it.

RRL isn't a special, exclusive brand that everyone wants and nobody can attain. It's now a mass produced heritage label that makes replicas of historical archives of vintage clothing as well as casual contemporary stuff, a good blend of East and West coast clothing and some British military stuff, nothing more. They are basically the clothing equivalent of buying Taiwan reps of BBS wheels. Seemingly expensive to most, but still cheap compared to the real deal.

Agree with you, but that's just the sentiment. It would have been Japanese bashing has today been the mid 80 to early 90s. Japan is a "developed" country, so as far as perception goes, not part of the competing for wage crowd (even if reality might not always be the case, but perception is the key).

Funny you mentioned Taiwan (where I am from) rep BBS wheels, I once run into a friends' friend in Taiwan who is confident about replicating anything (the last time I spoke to the guy, he was trying to replicate some non cosmetic E46 M3 CSL parts). I am not sure how many of these stayed in Taiwan though (as suppose to move to South East Asia or China).
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Yes, I meant that as an American brand it should have been using American denim and fabrics from the start, whereas they have been heavily using Japanese denim and fabrics as a sign of prestige and quality over the years, which is fine with me and also fine with me if they balance it out with cheaper stuff from India or China. The key word being balance.

 

Those people who only care USA this and USA that never noticed the strong Japanese/Asian influence the brand had from the beginning. Seems hypocritical to accept Japanese materials and construction but not Chinese/India coming from an 'American heritage' label. All political issues aside, I don't think China/India/etc is incapable of making a superior product if they were backed by a legitimate designer. 

 

  RRL only recently switched to American denim for their core jeans, but I doubt it was only to be more authentic or true to the brand image, but also as a cost saving measure. So they knocked out 2 birds with 1 stone.

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

No, because tweed pants are too geriatric for my tastes.

 

The point is, if these pants came from Italy or France they would easily cost over $1k. It doesn't even matter where it's constructed, the fabrics and design is what's important and RL's China plants have high quality standards. There is cheap China clothing and expensive China clothing just like there is cheap USA made and expensive. I'm tired of the China bashing that comes into play here every few months.

 

Furthermore, two posts don't go by in this thread without mentioning SilvioB or outlets. I sincerely doubt anyone in this thread has ever paid MSRP for anything.

i will say the china made polos from ralph lauren seem to be more comfortable at the top unlike the sri lanka polos where they seem to small/tight at the top

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

Yes, I meant that as an American brand it should have been using American denim and fabrics from the start, whereas they have been heavily using Japanese denim and fabrics as a sign of prestige and quality over the years, which is fine with me and also fine with me if they balance it out with cheaper stuff from India or China. The key word being balance.

Those people who only care USA this and USA that never noticed the strong Japanese/Asian influence the brand had from the beginning. Seems hypocritical to accept Japanese materials and construction but not Chinese/India coming from an 'American heritage' label. All political issues aside, I don't think China/India/etc is incapable of making a superior product if they were backed by a legitimate designer. 

  RRL only recently switched to American denim for their core jeans, but I doubt it was only to be more authentic or true to the brand image, but also as a cost saving measure. So they knocked out 2 birds with 1 stone.

After getting into nicer clothes I quickly go to the point where I wouldn't even look at things made in China as I thought they would always be inferior to US or Japanese counterparts. RRL Officer Chinos changed that for me. I had the chance to check them out in person and as soon as I did I realized that China can produce something just as good as anyone else. The officer chinos are truly fantastic both in materials and construction, they are better built than my US made RRL jeans or any of the other brands of US made chinos I've ever handled. I have a few RRL shirts as well and they are very nice. I have seen some that were sub-par, mostly due to too much distressing that left holes in the fabric (seen on at least three RRL shirts I can recall...all were purchased and returned to the online store during their big sales). The few I have bought and kept are great though and get lots of wear next to my Gitmans, Mister Freedom, Post O'alls, and EG shirts.
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