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Lol
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Originally Posted by jet View Post

downey doesn't make detergent, there's your problem right there

lol. Then my answer is "All". I honestly don't recall the brand. It could be tide for all I remember,
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Originally Posted by Jagger_On View Post

Not really feeling any of those leather jackets for some reason. Think that's probably just me though. Based on the items I've seen in store, this is definitely my favourite shirt so far. Will probably pick it up in a week or two.


I'm not sure I fully understand this point of view. What difference should it make whether something is made in the USA, made in the UK, made in China, etc? I'm pretty sure RL will have the same quality control in place in China as they do elsewhere. Their reputation is worth too much to suddenly start releasing sub quality product.

Its not really an issue to me what country its made in, its that the quality is lesser. Ive seen some of the stuff (wallets, passport book) in person and they feel lighter and cheaper. They dropped the price points too to reflect the cheaply made aspect of it
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Originally Posted by Dave_SFU View Post

Its not really an issue to me what country its made in, its that the quality is lesser. Ive seen some of the stuff (wallets, passport book) in person and they feel lighter and cheaper. They dropped the price points too to reflect the cheaply made aspect of it

Ah, thats fair enough. Seems strange that they're willing to reduce the quality but at least the price reflects this. I think the quality of RRL is one of the things we all like about the brand. Do you know if it's just them introducing a cheaper option and they'll still do some of the higher end items?

Have to say, I'm really happy with the wallet I picked up last year. It's coming in to a really nice colour now.
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Originally Posted by gumercindo View Post

You misunderstood, I wash them every few months or so. I think the problem is I've been washing them in Cold this whole time.

I'm not sure I misunderstood. I mean, I like fades as much as the next guy but I've never let my jeans get the the point of "eternal stench". I reckon if you're dancing and sweating in them a lot then more regular wash regimen might be appropriate.

Also, hot wash with proper detergent.
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Originally Posted by Dave_SFU View Post

Its not really an issue to me what country its made in, its that the quality is lesser. Ive seen some of the stuff (wallets, passport book) in person and they feel lighter and cheaper. They dropped the price points too to reflect the cheaply made aspect of it

I agree, a basic understanding of global commodity chain production and a passing familiarity with local conditions around China makes the argument against Chinese-made goods pointless. Not to say that will ever hinder people posting in this thread from their almost seasonal China bashing.

That said, I find the lowest quality RRL stuff I've owned (weird patterns, uneven stitching, poor construction) almost always has a 'Made in Sri Lanka' tag.
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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

Rrl has made a lot of sacrifices in recent years in their quest to become a large, mainstream clothing line.

The prestige that goes along with being made in italy can justify the price of a $2k jacket or $450 wallet. It is not a quality issue.

I would not buy a Maserati or Ferrari if they were made in Morocco...

Maybe not. But a shirt and a sportscar have somewhat different amounts of complexity and precision engineering, right? Sorry, I'm not an expert on cars.
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Originally Posted by hoit1981 View Post

I'm not sure I misunderstood. I mean, I like fades as much as the next guy but I've never let my jeans get the the point of "eternal stench". I reckon if you're dancing and sweating in them a lot then more regular wash regimen might be appropriate.

Also, hot wash with proper detergent.

Duly noted. I currently use Tide non-dye, non-fragrance. Is there a more appropriate detergent for selvedge?
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Volkswagens are engineered in Germany and many are made/constructed in Mexico. Its a cost saving measure but not quality issue. The car will have the same construction regardless where it is made as long as quality control standards exist. Much like RRL is engineered/designed in the USA and constructed elsewhere.

If new RRL wallets are cheaper in material/construction, it isnt because they come from China, its because RL wants to design them that way to offer them for a lower price as well as make them more accessible to the avg. Joe.

Everything RL does is to increase profit at the cost of quality, for things they deem the average consumer will not notice or scrutinize. The collections as a whole are very vast and still top notch.
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Originally Posted by gumercindo View Post

Duly noted. I currently use Tide non-dye, non-fragrance. Is there a more appropriate detergent for selvedge?

Not that I'm aware of. Basically you just have to take the plunge and wash them so they don't stink. After all, they aren't meant to last forever right...
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Dude it's not rocket science, just put it on hot wash with pretty much any detergent and a tiny cap full of bleach (make sure to mix the bleach into the water and letting the water fill up before dropping in the jeans) a bit of bleach will not hurt anything when diluted this much but will definitely take out any smells.

 

I hand wash some of my rare raw jeans, sometimes I let them soak with detergent overnight in a batch of boiling water (I don't boil them overnight, but the water I use is initially boiled) to give them a better appearance and cleansing. 

 

After washing them afterwards sun dry them.

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

Dude it's not rocket science, just put it on hot wash with pretty much any detergent and a tiny cap full of bleach (make sure to mix the bleach into the water and letting the water fill up before dropping in the jeans) a bit of bleach will not hurt anything when diluted this much but will definitely take out any smells.

I hand wash some of my rare raw jeans, sometimes I let them soak with detergent overnight in a batch of boiling water (I don't boil them overnight, but the water I use is initially boiled) to give them a better appearance and cleansing. 

After washing them afterwards sun dry them.
This has worked for my raw straight legs, I've soaked them in warm water with detergent for an hour... Had them for 2 years now, no complaints
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Just arrived back from Bicester UK. There were some RRL remnants but nothing much to shout about.................................................

Overall the whole experience at Bicester Ralph Lauren was rather stressful.
They have a Special Gift promotion of 20% off when you spend £450 or more*, so after scanning all my items, I was £90 under this £450 value and the helpful Gentleman Sales Assistant informed that I may seek more items to make up the difference and return to the side to pay for the whole transaction without the necessity to queue again.
Upon returning to the side of the Checkout, an abrupt female Italian/Spanish Sales Assistant told me she was very busy and that I had to go queue again so I tried to explain the situation.

Eventually I payed and exited the premises but..............was very curious whether this foreign-accent Sales Assistant had deducted the last added 4 items to the promotional price (if any), so I returned and requested a check on the 4 added items and was told by this same Sales Assistant that she had made no mistake and that I can complain to the Manager (strange form of self defence) if I so desired; she also apparently lost the original scanning of the 1st batch of items which was in her possession just a couple of Minutes earlier. All that was required was the rescanning of the items to determine if the price was congruous but two Sales staff began reading the tag numbers and ticking it off the receipt, how can this determine the correct price ? it only determined that all the items have been accounted, no ?

Exited again but was still not satisfied with their checking/counting because most retail establishment would train their Staffs to just rescan every item for discrepancies (saves much time) rather than doing this useless manual counting, so I returned yet again.
This time to be confronted by the supposedly Mangeress and another Member of Management, both seemed to possess an air of disdain (we have your money , now go away and stop bothering us !).
When I queried part of the receipt, this Manageress was adamant that everything was correct and cannot grasp that if the input by the Sales assistant was incorrect, the recipt will still add-up correctly. She also vehemently explained that the 20% denoted on the receipt represents VAT, I sensed a "I have explained your error, now go away" attitude. She either have no idea of the 20% representation on the receipt or she was talking cow-poo because that 20% added up to the value of the Special Gift promotion of £103.76, not to the value of £69.20 VAT which is clearly stated after the subtotal. See upload, Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

I am not saying all the Staff were disdainful, some were very helpful without seemingly being intrusive, credit where it is due but some members of staff need to take a crash course in Customer Relations especially on the side of the Management.

In the end they never did rescan these four added items................................................................

All I wanted was to have the last four items rescanned, was that so demanding ?

NB: I am also of foreign orgin so there are no discrimination towards foreign nationals.

My head tells me to move on and ignore this Brand, my heart tells me otherwise so I edited this Post just slightly so as not to cause too much detriment to RRL.
Edited by J888www - 7/26/13 at 7:58pm
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Other than scanned receipt, can we see what kind of stuffs you kopped?
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Finally got a chance to hot soak the Selvedge Officer's Chinos. I thought the inseam would shrink a ton but I still had to cuff them 3 times.

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I'm looking to pick up the Slim-Fit Rigid Denim really soon but I'm not sure whether to get the same size or size up. Thoughts?
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