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post #1411 of 14942
4/9/10 at 8:34pm
Visited the RRL store on Fillmore St in San Francisco. They're doing something I hadn't seen done before: finding vintage non-RRL stuff (hiking boots, leather belts) that fits with the RRL aesthetic and then offering them in the store at RRL prices. So, old leather belts that they didn't make for $160, or old school hiking boots for $455.

Pretty cheesy, if you ask me.
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post #1412 of 14942
4/9/10 at 10:58pm
I think RL has been doing that for a while. Last year I was in the Honolulu RL store and the RRL dept had a bunch of vintage Hawaiian shirt and similar items for sale. I remember other RL stores have been selling hellishly overpriced old Rolexes and other watches.
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post #1413 of 14942
4/9/10 at 10:59pm
They were selling a pair of used levis for $1000 back in 2003 at the soho store.
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post #1414 of 14942
4/9/10 at 11:33pm
Agreed, I don't think this is anything new. Since when is there a RRL store in San Francisco?
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post #1415 of 14942
4/10/10 at 2:42am
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Agreed, I don't think this is anything new. Since when is there a RRL store in San Francisco?

I don't know when they opened. But they're on Fillmore St near Pine. It's devoted to RRL, no standard RL stuff that I noticed (with the exception maybe of shoes).

Obviously, they have a much better RRL selection than the downtown RL store on Kearny.

I'm not saying it's a new policy for RL, more that I've never personally seen it (from them or anyone else). It's probably a good business move on their part. Still, I was laughing as I handled used belts they had picked up from somewhere and decided to flip for a 500% profit.
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post #1416 of 14942
4/10/10 at 12:08pm
Well, good to see they're still expanding the brand, if tentatively. An SA at the Georgetown Ralph store told me that one of the main reasons the RRL store in Georgetown failed and subsequently closed was due to the fact that it was a walk-up (you had to climb a short set of stairs to enter the store). Apparently that's the kiss of death for a retail store, since people are either unwilling or too lazy to make the climb!
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post #1417 of 14942
4/11/10 at 3:41pm
Any suggestions on the best way to grab a RRL chambray shirt in size Medium? Unfortunately, there isn't a RRL store where I live. I've been checking ebay, but I've only seen shirts that have more of a "western" look, which is not really what I am looking for.

Thanks!
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post #1418 of 14942
4/12/10 at 1:40pm
I rarely see any chambrays up on eBay in Medium that aren't the western ones...
outlets got them sometimes...
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post #1419 of 14942
4/13/10 at 12:16am
Bah... I guess I'll have to wait until one shows up on B&S.
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post #1420 of 14942
4/13/10 at 1:54am
So what are peep's thoughts on this springs goods so far? Any standout pieces?
I picked up a the selvage chambray, and 2 western shirts. Heading up to NY this weekend and plan to hit up the Prince St store.
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post #1421 of 14942
4/13/10 at 8:14am
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Bah... I guess I'll have to wait until one shows up on B&S.

Or maybe call an RRL store?
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post #1422 of 14942
4/13/10 at 11:39am
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So what are peep's thoughts on this springs goods so far? Any standout pieces?
I picked up a the selvage chambray, and 2 western shirts. Heading up to NY this weekend and plan to hit up the Prince St store.

Pics of said articles are requested
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post #1423 of 14942
4/15/10 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by Trapp View Post
Visited the RRL store on Fillmore St in San Francisco. They're doing something I hadn't seen done before: finding vintage non-RRL stuff (hiking boots, leather belts) that fits with the RRL aesthetic and then offering them in the store at RRL prices. So, old leather belts that they didn't make for $160, or old school hiking boots for $455. Pretty cheesy, if you ask me.
As others have pointed out, this is nothing new and has been going on for quite a while now. I think you have to look at RRLs customer base to understand the reasoning behind this. RRL captures a vintage aesthetic that people seek out; some look for the real mccoy, others for "new" old, and even more find a mix of both. Sure, the collections RRL puts out are fairly deep but there are bound to be gaps that could be filled. The vintage items clearly aren't meant to be the focus but they can definitely complete the look, and when a guy is already paying $200 for a flannel that looks like it was made 40 years ago, spending $140 on a belt made 40 years ago doesn't seem that far fetched. The guys at RRL go to Rose Bowl swap regularly to find stuff for the stores. Going back to their customer base, it's not uncommon to see the same guys going through bins at the swamp walk in and shop at RRL. There's a lot of crossover because of the aesthetic. I'm not going to assume what RRLs margins are like when they sell the vintage items because not everything that looks cheap at the swap actually is, but I would say that what they do is no different from other select vintage stores that hunt down specific items for customers that don't have the time to look for themselves but have the capital for the service. It could be "cheesy" to the guy who buys bargain bin RRL off ebay but legitimate to the guy who buys RRL at retail regularly.
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So what are peep's thoughts on this springs goods so far? Any standout pieces?
I liked a few Taos pieces I saw but I think I'm looking forward more to how people dig the Key West collection.
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post #1424 of 14942
4/15/10 at 10:34pm
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As others have pointed out, this is nothing new and has been going on for quite a while now. I think you have to look at RRLs customer base to understand the reasoning behind this. RRL captures a vintage aesthetic that people seek out; some look for the real mccoy, others for "new" old, and even more find a mix of both. Sure, the collections RRL puts out are fairly deep but there are bound to be gaps that could be filled. The vintage items clearly aren't meant to be the focus but they can definitely complete the look, and when a guy is already paying $200 for a flannel that looks like it was made 40 years ago, spending $140 on a belt made 40 years ago doesn't seem that far fetched.

The guys at RRL go to Rose Bowl swap regularly to find stuff for the stores. Going back to their customer base, it's not uncommon to see the same guys going through bins at the swamp walk in and shop at RRL. There's a lot of crossover because of the aesthetic. I'm not going to assume what RRLs margins are like when they sell the vintage items because not everything that looks cheap at the swap actually is, but I would say that what they do is no different from other select vintage stores that hunt down specific items for customers that don't have the time to look for themselves but have the capital for the service.

It could be "cheesy" to the guy who buys bargain bin RRL off ebay but legitimate to the guy who buys RRL at retail regularly.

These are all good points. My take is admittedly biased by the fact that I am, indeed, a bargain binner, and the belts that RRL was flipping were the same belts (at least 2) that I'd picked up for a buck and a half. Of course, not everyone has the time, patience, interest, or access to thrift stores (lots of people have better things to do, fortunately) and in that case they'll be happy to put down lots of $$$ on a cool old belt.

It's true that plenty of select vintage stores do the same or a similar thing. It's the amount of the upcharge that surprised me; most vintage stores would list those belts for $45-$65, not $140.
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post #1425 of 14942
4/25/10 at 10:47am
Thinking of ordering some slim boot raws, what is stretching like on these? is it as massive as APC NS's? Also I am 6'1" should I go with the 32 or 34 length? I am thinking 34 because if they are antyhing like other raws I have owned they are going to shrink quite a bit in length once washed (atleast my NS's did).

I took a 31 in NS so I am thinking of going for a 32 in the RRL slim boot raw.
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