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Originally Posted by oceansaway View Post

The selection of straight leg models is lousy this season. There's only two online, and one of them, the bright sky, looks like an 80s wash.

Yeah, I think they are moving to heavy reliance on the slim straight. I guess the straight legs don't sell well. Selection does suck lately.

I've been tempted to stock up on ebay finds, as I sense this fit is going away, along with the Japanese denim.
Edited by kmdsimpson - 3/10/13 at 1:26pm
post #14072 of 21253
RL, as a company, does a lot of trend analysis. That includes sales at their stores. If they see a certain fit is selling higher numbers, they'll push it. Probably won't get rid of straight legs altogether, though.
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I sense this too, I believe they'll start making jeans in China eventually and eventually OE denim. Polo jeans come from China, Black Label from Tunisia or Turkey. Most of their bottoms are made in China that were once made in the USA. People don't want to pay $400 for a pair of RRL jeans and at 40-50% off they don't make enough profit. It's almost inevitable this will happen, once the label becomes more mainstream.

 

The raw/rinse jeans might stay based in the USA but made entirely of White Oak denims. They will probably release "limited edition" jeans that are made in the USA and of Japanese selvedge. Price will probably be somewhere in the $500-600 range and made in small batches of 50-100. Just my theories.

 

PRPS also switched production of jeans from Japan to China if that's indicative of anything. Their washes are still as good as anything I've ever seen so there is high hopes RRL's China made washes will still look great.

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Originally Posted by wEstSidE View Post

RL, as a company, does a lot of trend analysis. That includes sales at their stores. If they see a certain fit is selling higher numbers, they'll push it. Probably won't get rid of straight legs altogether, though.

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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

I sense this too, I believe they'll start making jeans in China eventually and eventually OE denim. Polo jeans come from China, Black Label from Tunisia or Turkey. Most of their bottoms are made in China that were once made in the USA. People don't want to pay $400 for a pair of RRL jeans and at 40-50% off they don't make enough profit. It's almost inevitable this will happen, once the label becomes more mainstream.

The raw/rinse jeans might stay based in the USA but made entirely of White Oak denims. They will probably release "limited edition" jeans that are made in the USA and of Japanese selvedge. Price will probably be somewhere in the $500-600 range and made in small batches of 50-100. Just my theories.

PRPS also switched production of jeans from Japan to China if that's indicative of anything. Their washes are still as good as anything I've ever seen so there is high hopes RRL's China made washes will still look great.

Completely agree. They've already proven with other labels and with RRL tops that they can move production to new countries and be successful. And I don't think quality will suffer in terms of workmanship.

I just really like the feel of the Japanese denim. Also, for me, the RRL denim hits a nice sweet spot between fashionable but not too trendy/hardcore/crazy and not old/staid. I don't care about the Sugurcane/Flathead/Samurai/whatever else hardcore jean comparisons, and I also don't want a pair of Diesels. These strike a really nice balance.

Basically, I just don't want them to change, because I like them as they are.
post #14075 of 21253
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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post

Basically, I just don't want them to change, because I like them as they are.

Better start buying...
post #14076 of 21253
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Originally Posted by Trimalchio View Post

Does anyone know what the inseam length is on the 1936 Buckle-Back Dark Denim from this season? Also, is the fit similar to the standard Straight Leg?


I'd say the inseam is around 34/35.

I've never tried the Straight Leg ones. But the fit is a bit higher rise and rather slim in the legs. The fabric- at least in the ones I have- is made in the US, i.e. Cone.

post #14077 of 21253
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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

I sense this too, I believe they'll start making jeans in China eventually and eventually OE denim. Polo jeans come from China, Black Label from Tunisia or Turkey. Most of their bottoms are made in China that were once made in the USA. People don't want to pay $400 for a pair of RRL jeans and at 40-50% off they don't make enough profit. It's almost inevitable this will happen, once the label becomes more mainstream.

 

The raw/rinse jeans might stay based in the USA but made entirely of White Oak denims. They will probably release "limited edition" jeans that are made in the USA and of Japanese selvedge. Price will probably be somewhere in the $500-600 range and made in small batches of 50-100. Just my theories.

 

PRPS also switched production of jeans from Japan to China if that's indicative of anything. Their washes are still as good as anything I've ever seen so there is high hopes RRL's China made washes will still look great.

 

PRPS has several lines, made in China (PRPS Goods & Co), made in USA (PRPS Heirloom), made in Japan (PRPS and PRPS Noir)... so they continue to have made in Japan jeans unless that has changed recently. Model number starting with an E = made in China. With a P = made in Japan.

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BTW, my personal preference of denim which is made in Japan, USA or Italy has to do more with workers' welfare than quality of the goods.

 

Made in China is not a sign of bad quality by itself. iPhones are made in China, for example. Having workers with fair working conditions is harder to find over there.

post #14079 of 21253
Does anyone have this striped chambray? If so, thoughts?

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Originally Posted by UltraMagnetical View Post

Does anyone have this striped chambray? If so, thoughts?

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I have it. It's cut like a parachute so definitely size down. For example I wear the flannels in a medium (and could go small) and got this in a medium as well. It's is almost comically too big. Should have gone down a size. For reference I wear: PRL custom fit: medium/15.5 PRL classic fit: small/15, Epaulet medium, Gant oxfords, small. I'm a pretty standard 38" regular jacket. 5'9" and between 150 and 165 depending on if in race season or not.
post #14081 of 21253

How do the Denim and Supply chinos compare to RRL chinos? Both have buttons flys so I'm trying to decide which to get.

post #14082 of 21253
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Originally Posted by jamezism View Post

How do the Denim and Supply chinos compare to RRL chinos? Both have buttons flys so I'm trying to decide which to get.

I've never handled anything from D&S that can hold a candle to RRL's offerings.

post #14083 of 21253
Hey guys, any info on where to kop these? Been looking into burgundy pants (chino or denim). Thanks

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post #14084 of 21253
Ok some details on the chambray based on some questions I've had. Bullet points to keep it quick

- fabric is very solid - not as light as oxford but not as heavy as flannel - almost has a lighter duck canvas feel to it
- triple stitched seams - very carhartt like
- could be worn year round unless in stifling heat
For size Medium
- sleeve (cuff to shoulder) = 26 inches
- collar to tail (front) = ~27.5 inches
- chest (seam to seam) = 22.25

Re: pics:
- laid flat, buttons buttoned
- size medium RRL flannel on top
- crappy iPad pics, sorry
- towel laid down for contrast, light blue bed spread + iPad = crappy pics
- sleeves about 1" longer than flannel
- hem about 2.5/3" (didn't measure, sorry) longer than flannel







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Originally Posted by RRL CLOTHING View Post

I sense this too, I believe they'll start making jeans in China eventually and eventually OE denim. Polo jeans come from China, Black Label from Tunisia or Turkey. Most of their bottoms are made in China that were once made in the USA. People don't want to pay $400 for a pair of RRL jeans and at 40-50% off they don't make enough profit. It's almost inevitable this will happen, once the label becomes more mainstream.

 

The raw/rinse jeans might stay based in the USA but made entirely of White Oak denims. They will probably release "limited edition" jeans that are made in the USA and of Japanese selvedge. Price will probably be somewhere in the $500-600 range and made in small batches of 50-100. Just my theories.

 

PRPS also switched production of jeans from Japan to China if that's indicative of anything. Their washes are still as good as anything I've ever seen so there is high hopes RRL's China made washes will still look great.

 

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Originally Posted by kmdsimpson View Post



Completely agree. They've already proven with other labels and with RRL tops that they can move production to new countries and be successful. And I don't think quality will suffer in terms of workmanship.

I just really like the feel of the Japanese denim. Also, for me, the RRL denim hits a nice sweet spot between fashionable but not too trendy/hardcore/crazy and not old/staid. I don't care about the Sugurcane/Flathead/Samurai/whatever else hardcore jean comparisons, and I also don't want a pair of Diesels. These strike a really nice balance.

Basically, I just don't want them to change, because I like them as they are.

I don't know. i have a feeling they'll go the other way and start to bring more production back to the US from abroad, its just a feeling. They didn't need to move back to using US fabric in denim, but they did because they wanted to offer a 100% US made denim range. I think this will creep into the tops side. Who knows.

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