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post #76 of 81
11/16/11 at 10:27pm
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If only one pair of black shoes I vote AE Park Avenue or brand equivalent of a captoe balmoral.


Why a captoe instead of a plaintoe? A plaintoe would be more suitable for black tie, while being as equally suitable as a captoe for everyday wear.

 

Of course, as we've learned through the course of this thread, no one really makes a plaintoe balmoral except for Alden which are clunky (to me at least), but I'm considering making them (for $350).

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post #77 of 81
11/16/11 at 11:27pm
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If only one pair of black shoes I vote AE Park Avenue or brand equivalent of a captoe balmoral.


Why a captoe instead of a plaintoe? A plaintoe would be more suitable for black tie, while being as equally suitable as a captoe for everyday wear.

Of course, as we've learned through the course of this thread, no one really makes a plaintoe balmoral except for Alden which are clunky (to me at least), but I'm considering making them (for $350).

Until Harvey rings in...
With respect, are we talking about a handful of priviledged elite or the public at large?
Perhaps if for no other reason than the captoe is the laymans approach to formalwear; dressy enough for formal and provides options afterwards (interviews, etc). 'More bang for the buck' as it were.
Personally I feel that a captoe is more reliably good looking shoe than a plain toe, though I wear both. The cap creates a point of interest that a plain toe cannot do. Instep creasing is also less noticeable on a cap toe. I do wear plain toes and pumps but I do admit to having worn cap toes to formal events as well.
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post #78 of 81
11/17/11 at 12:09am
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The cap creates a point of interest that a plain toe cannot do. Instep creasing is also less noticeable on a cap toe.

That's an interesting point, but plaintoe bluchers are quite common. Do you avoid those as well?

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post #79 of 81
11/17/11 at 2:40am
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That's an interesting point, but plaintoe bluchers are quite common. Do you avoid those as well?

Formals aside, I do indeed wear and enjoy plain toe bluchers (including chukkas). It isn't the plain toe that bothers me so much. Perhaps it is patent leather that I am not a fan of. In mans attempt to make the cleanest looking shoe, he defeated the elegance of natural leather with plastic coatings. I am sure that when patent leather was a new process, that it was embraced with excitement. It served a need; that being a way to make formal shoes look consistent and fabulous without fuss. There were more dirty muddy roads than paved ones back then so I appreciate that patent leather was (and still is) a most reliable shoe preference. My plain toes are not the latest models so I may need to update in that area.
Formalwear, at some point in its history did embrace (at the time) new ideas. It adapted and evolved. It should continue to do so.
Kent, I will concede to your expertise on formal footwear. No one should trust my preferences and opinions over established protocol and tradition. I am typing this at 5:46am. Have not slept as yet and very tired. Sorry for the drivel.
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post #80 of 81
11/18/11 at 6:07pm
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Manton: In your address to wedding planners, you show this black captoe balmoral boot as the ideal:

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But how would that look any different from a non-boot captoe, e.g. the Phillip II that you regret recommending Foo? The pants would cover up the boot part so they would indistinguishable.

Foo says I told him he could wear his philips with a DJ. I deny that. With a suit or formal day wear, they are fine.
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post #81 of 81
11/19/11 at 8:37am
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That's an interesting point, but plaintoe bluchers are quite common. Do you avoid those as well?


 

I do. I simply hate how plaintoe / wholecut shoes look at a 10 3E (or 4E); something akin to Crocs... The cap helps narrow the appearance, in my opinion. I just purchased a pair of AE Park Avenues to wear with my shawl tuxedo as a compromise on fit, price, availability, and style.

 

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