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How is Johnston & Murphy Made in Italy?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
So I have been avoiding Johnston & Murphy all the time. But then I came across a pair of Johnston & Murphy made in Italy. Are these old stock? What's the quality? How should I compare it with other high end shoes?

Thank you
post #2 of 14
They have an entire current line of "crafted in Italy"

http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/catego...ing.aspx?c=689
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, that tells me how much I pay attention to J&M. So I guess the quality is still mediocre compared to other high ends shoes then..?
post #4 of 14
From the pictures alone it looks as if the leather would wrinkle just by looking at them.
post #5 of 14
I think this has been asked elsewhere, but what the hell is "bondwelt" construction? It is a glued welt? Sounds strange, sounds even perhaps weaker than regular glued construction.
post #6 of 14
I had a pair of Johnston & Murphy, made in Italy, about 10 years ago. Quality was decent but it is not a high end shoe and definitely glued.
post #7 of 14
Just because something is made in Italy, that does not mean it is of high quality.
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kusumek View Post
Just because something is made in Italy, that does not mean it is of high quality.

Debatable : http://images.google.com/images?q=ItalianGirls

Anyway, how about J&M made in USA? Are they old stock?
post #9 of 14
Last week I bought my son a slightly used pair of these shoes, black captoe, for $25. Decent looking shoes, combo rubber/leather soles. They are most definitely corrected grain, but they did take a decent shine, unlike some other CG shoes I've seen.

Regardless of where they're made, they seem like a full step below any AE I've worn or seen. But may be acceptable for the right price.
post #10 of 14
I had some J&M, another line of Johnston and Murpy, made in Italy, cap toes. This was pre-Styleforum, of course. They wrinkled very, very quickly, and just didnt look good. This was with shoe strees and proper care.

I have learned to never waste even 50.00 bucks on cheap shoes. Just put the 50.00 bucks toward some decent shoes.
post #11 of 14

Digging this one out of its grave. Just got an e-mail from J&M touting the hand-crafted in Italy line. Safe to assume that nothing has changed for the better in the 7 years that this thread lay dormant?

 

Thanks,

J

post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by J o s h View Post
 

Digging this one out of its grave. Just got an e-mail from J&M touting the hand-crafted in Italy line. Safe to assume that nothing has changed for the better in the 7 years that this thread lay dormant?

 

Thanks,

J

 

Yeah...I caught it too in my spam mail..lol.

 

On the same note, I had 2 pairs of J&M before I moved on to AE (and thus this forum) and I never really had any complaints for the $2XX I paid for them. They served me very well for almost 2 pairs and I ended up selling off during a garage sale.

 

Even though my shoe wardrobe is pretty much overfull right now, I wouldn't mind picking up one of these made in Italy pairs for an excuse ;-).

post #13 of 14

I'm digging this one in particular.

 

post #14 of 14
I have their Grayson chukka in that same color. Looks like the boot version of that shoe you're eyeing. I get compliments whenever I wear them.
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