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post #46 of 75
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...it's a group of people who seek to seperate themselves from the rest of the population on the basis of a near-meaningless measure of intelligence... Mensa is a joke... I do think joining requires some degree of either arrogance or naivete.
Why, Dusty?  That's pretty rude, really.
post #47 of 75
Well either you are arrogant enough to seek the separation or you are naive anough to think that the organization actually functions to better humanity. I don't want to be rude, but if I'm wrong, show me something Mensa has done to justify its existence.
post #48 of 75
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Some of the arrogant pricks on this forum would do well in life to put up or shut up, lets have this as a starting point. If you don't want to join don't, if you want to criticise the entry standard then do so when you have reached it, if you want to criticise the functions, do so after you have attended one.
Good post, Nonk. Note that it takes most folks a while to get to know each other, especially on an Internet forum, and getting to know each other virtually usually involves getting comfortable/attuned to each other's humor (or lack of) and sensitivities. If I can stomach dorian, and if Manton can stomach me, and globetrotter can stomach five or ten cheeseburgers a day, well, then, maybe there is hope for the world.
post #49 of 75
Dusty, as a former member of Mensa, and one who has considered rejoining (as someone who moved frequently it was a good way to expand my social circle outside of work in each new location) I think I can speak for us all in assuring you we can deal with the disappointment given your decision not to apply. Ps, I have to point out that the IQ quoted and dismissed in your post as of no consequence is a step higher than that of the average college professor in the US, and in the light of this I wonder who it is that is being arrogant here. Despite your abuse of Mensa and its members I feel that you are desperately waiting and attempting to engineer a situation whereby you can tell us all your IQ which you are clearly enormously proud of.
post #50 of 75
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Dusty, as a former member of Mensa, and one who has considered rejoining (as someone who moved frequently it was a good way to expand my social circle outside of work in each new location) I think I can speak for us all in assuring you we can deal with the disappointment given your decision not to apply. Ps, I have to point out that the IQ quoted and dismissed in your post as of no consequence is a step higher than that of the average college professer in the US, and in the light of this I wonder who it is that is being arrogant here. Despite your abuse of Mensa and its members I feel that you are desparately waiting and attempting to engineer a situation whereby you can tell us all your IQ which you are clearly enormously proud of.
Apparently, the Mensa exam doesn't include a spelling section. Yikes.
post #51 of 75
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This is not a group of people getting together because they share an interest, it's a group of people who seek to seperate themselves from the rest of the population on the basis of a near-meaningless measure of intelligence.
I have talked to a few people from my local chapter of mensa and most of them joined as a way to meet people, they joined so that they would have an easier way to find people to socialize with. They definitely aren't looking to "seperate themselves from the rest of the population," in fact, the exact opposite is true.
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Mensa states it's goals as the fostering of human intelligence, encouraging research, and to provide intellectual opportunities for its members. Which of those goals requires an IQ above 140 to accomplish? Mensa is a joke.
Just because none of these goals REQUIRES an IQ in the 98th percentile doesn't mean that a group composed of these people cannot attempt to accomplish these goals. That is not the only goal of mensa, here is a quote from the website of my local chapter. " But we are more than just a social organization. Although one of Mensa's purposes, as stated in our constitution, is "to promote stimulating intellectual and social opportunities for its members," another is to "identify and foster human intelligence for the benefit of humanity." With this in mind, local Mensans also contribute energy, knowledge and money to educational, adult literacy, and similar programs in our community. To support such activities, and to keep our group going, we also do some fundraising - another good excuse for socializing. You may find us helping at the Scottish-Irish Festival or running an occasional garage sale." To me that doesn't sound like a group of people seeking to seperate themselves from the rest of society.
post #52 of 75
loop - But why form a group based on IQ score? If it's a social club, how do you explain the desire to socialize with a group that only admits the "smartest" 2% of the population? nonk - No, I'm not going to tell you my IQ and I'm not going to tell you whether or not I qualify for Mensa; it's irrelevant. As I've said before, I don't put any stock into such things. And how about you stem the personal attacks and insults? We are not pricks.
post #53 of 75
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How do you explain the desire to socialize with a group that only admits the "smartest" 2% of the population?
They can get your jokes.
post #54 of 75
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loop - But why form a group based on IQ score? If it's a social club, how do you explain the desire to socialize with a group that only admits the "smartest" 2% of the population?
a lot of very smart people have trouble communicating comfortably with much of the general population - this is not a factor of their being arragant, it is sometimes an issue with some limitations in their early socialization, and often feeling uncomfortable finding a common point for discussion with people. also, often very smart people feel that they have interests not shared by the general population. I don't think that there is anything to mock about mensa - I qualify for membership and haven't really considered joining just because I have my groups of friends, and I don't feel that getting together with a group of people who have a similar IQ is how I will find more friends. I can understand the motivation for joining, but it is not really for me. but to each his own.
post #55 of 75
I used to be, technically still am, a member of these various High IQ groups. Like most endeavours it became tiresome, beyond the fact that the discussions progressed to insipid rehashes of theory. I wanted to discuss Jacues Bergier but nobody even knew who that was, talking endlessly about Nietzsche.
post #56 of 75
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
I used to be, technically still am, a member of these various High IQ groups.

Like most endeavours it became tiresome, beyond the fact that the discussions progressed to insipid rehashes of theory.

I wanted to discuss Jacues Bergier but nobody even knew who that was, talking endlessly about Nietzsche.

What is the infamous quote? Oh, yes:

Nietzsche: "God is dead"

God: "Nietzsche is dead"

Jon.
post #57 of 75
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
I used to be, technically still am, a member of these various High IQ groups.

Like most endeavours it became tiresome, beyond the fact that the discussions progressed to insipid rehashes of theory.

I wanted to discuss Jacues Bergier but nobody even knew who that was, talking endlessly about Nietzsche.


I once, while dating a very bright but slightly weird girl, went to a few meetings of this group of people that met to study the works of a specifc and obscure early 20th century philosopher. very very boring, but what we do, when we are young, for a little tail.
post #58 of 75
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
I once, while dating a very bright but slightly weird girl, went to a few meetings of this group of people that met to study the works of a specifc and obscure early 20th century philosopher. very very boring, but what we do, when we are young, for a little tail.

Was she a Mensa member?

More importantly, if so, was the tail any different?
post #59 of 75
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
What is the infamous quote? Oh, yes:

Nietzsche: "God is dead"

God: "Nietzsche is dead"

Jon.

Chuck Norris: "God and Nietzsche are dead. I killed them."
post #60 of 75
Ha. I just took the test and deliberately didn't try. I just immediately filled in whatever the hell I wanted to without really studying the questions. In the part where you have to write words and such, I put things like:

Frank Zappa

Red Ostrich etc.

I scored a 15/30. Pretty funny that you can register a pulse without even trying.
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