#1 is gorgeous. I'd buy one. Most def.. Especially since the flood in my apartment killed my other Carlo Franco tie, which I really liked. Did you say these were going to be double-4-folds? Nice. Chuck, is it still too late for me to send back the shirt I bought? It's sitting in the box and I have been too busy to do that. For those unfamiliar with Chuck's ties, they are DA BOMB. Nice and thick, plush, beautiful.