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Why the resentment towards women?

post #1 of 94
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The following quote is from the Putting off Marriage marriage thread.

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Originally Posted by airportlobby View Post
I can't help by find it incredibly irksome when people, like the original poster's quoted treatise, treat "Feminism" as a concrete force that undermines natural gender roles and authorizes misogyny. If you feel this to be happening in a relationship, why not open a dialogue in which ideas are discussed. If doctrinaire feminism is insisted upon by your adversary, then it is time to make a decision. But this idea that the way men and women interact has been sabotaged by feminism and feminist legal theory strikes me as stupid.

Women seemed to get blamed for some dumb shit in a couple of the threads I've read. What are your views of the current state of masculinity, gender roles, and feminism in the post Sex in the City world?

I'm not saying everyone here is a misogynist but at times it lies quite playfully in the undertones.
post #2 of 94
I didn't realize there was a "Post Sex and the City" world. What was the world like pre-SATC? More pubic hair?
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I didn't realize there was a "Post Sex and the City" world. What was the world like pre-SATC? More pubic hair?

Oh Em Gee Girl, you are such a Samantha.
post #4 of 94
Can a thread go nowhere if it starts out there?
post #5 of 94
I don't approve of feminism, it's just as bad as mysogyny. Give me equal rights any day.
post #6 of 94
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I didn't realize there was a "Post Sex and the City" world. What was the world like pre-SATC? More pubic hair?
A bit of an obtuse reference on my part. Here are the quotes from the Quarter life crisis thread I had in mind when writing that if it helps.
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I can't think of a much worse spot than being a woman in her mid-30s looking for love. The point being that women would often be better off settling for the best thing they can get while still young enough instead of trying to live out a Sex in the City fantasy. The time for girls to fool around is in their teens and college... after that you'd better be looking for a man and forget this liberated modern woman-of-the-city attitude.
A woman's shelf life ends at thirty apparently.
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What she doesn't realize is that he's a man and relatively happy: he gets to buy all the toys he wants, and he gets steady nookie and has a semi-domestic girlfriend. So he basically has no incentive to marry and there is no social stigma against them cohabitating; he getting lots of extra-marital nookie, and then can trade down in a few years. Under the old-social norms, there was social stigma against a man who deprived a woman of her prime family-formation years, and then jetted. And if they were married early, there would be divorce and a seperation of property. In the new post-feminist, Sex In The City era, there's no divorce, she doesn't get half his stuff, and he can trade down to a younger model when she gets lines around her eyes It's all upside for the upwardly mobile dude, who's likely to age more gracefully and move into higher earning brackets (and thus become equally or more desirable to women). She doesn't realize it, but she's wasting her prime family-formation or mate-attracting years on him. She either needs to crap or get off the pot (or, as we say, fish or cut bait). But by the time Ring-Chaser finally realizes he never intended to marry her, her upper arms are flabby, she has lines around her eyes, and unless she's a real catch, then there are hundreds more just like her, but 5 years younger and 15 lbs lighter. At least, this is my theory developed at 2 am over a few beers with a buddy. Feminists, who pushed for the changes that enabled this, in 5 or 10 years will find a way to blame men for it
Here women who cant lock down a marriage proposal are at fault for prolonged male adolescence. Even the Putting of Married life thread presupposes a certain level a misogyny in just agreeing with the opening article.
post #7 of 94
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in the post Sex in the City world?
huh? I've never seen the show wtf are you getting at, that sounds creepy. Oh nm I understand, read the quotes above me. As for this whole marriage thing I think too many people are getting married that shouldn't be.
post #8 of 94
Masculinity is almost never celebrated in pop culture. Traditional gender roles are a natural instinct that have been very consistent in most every civilization throughout recorded history. Most of the stereotypes of women being overly emotional, not knowing what they want, manipulative, greedy, entitled, and abusive when in leadership roles have become much more prevalent since I've become an adult. Feminists have become a bizarre hypocritical reversal of what they once hated and fought against.
post #9 of 94
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Clarity, see my post above. It was a reference to how SatC encapsulates the liberated woman as a farce for some. I could care less for the show itself.
post #10 of 94
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Can a thread go nowhere if it starts out there?
This sounds very zen. My question is... does one hand clap at the place where nowhere starts? Anyway, to the OP: SF is filled with all types; there are lots of younger posters with infantile sexual or emotional maturity, many (most?) of whom have probably not been within a quarter-mile of a real hoo-haw that wasn't paid with dollar-bills in her g-string or who wasn't printed on glossy paper, long since smeared to obscurity with months of accumulated jean-creaming. SO, there really isn't misogyny here per se, but there are unintentional misogynists who are scared of the fact that they have tiny, tiny lil peckers, but like to dangle it on teh interwebz by appearing "cool" through putting women down. They're a bunch of "ballers," even if only in their own (equally tiny) lil brainzzz.
post #11 of 94
Yo fuck dat bro. Put a chick in her place and fukker dooggie style! Lol bros b4 hos know what I mean? Bitches love my dick, they worship it. I am the god of the post-SATC world. Pre-nup FTW y'allz.
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Originally Posted by Tardek View Post
I don't approve of feminism, it's just as bad as mysogyny. Give me equal rights any day.

fem·i·nism (fěm'ə-nĭz'əm)
n.
Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.

(American Heritage Dictionary)
post #13 of 94
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
Anyway, to the OP: SF is filled with all types; there are lots of younger posters with infantile sexual or emotional maturity, many (most?) of whom have probably not been within a quarter-mile of a real hoo-haw that wasn't paid with dollar-bills in her g-string or who wasn't printed on glossy paper, long since smeared to obscurity with months of accumulated jean-creaming.

SO, there really isn't misogyny here per se, but there are unintentional misogynists who are scared of the fact that they have tiny, tiny lil peckers, but like to dangle it on teh interwebz by appearing "cool" through putting women down.


You do have what it takes not to be nice. This is pretty good, "You're all small timers pt. II Version 3.0"?
post #14 of 94
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Originally Posted by rdawson808 View Post
fem·i·nism (fěm'ə-nĭz'əm) n. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes. (American Heritage Dictionary)
+1. A discussion with SFers about their views or knowledge of feminism would probably not be healthy for staving off the Aperipocalypse. Duuuuude... feminism means cuttin' off our dicks, man! It's, like, women cuttin' their hair and buyin' Subarus and like those Amazon chicks cuttin off one titty to fire arrows!!!! And reading Sappho poetry and makin' kids memorize it! NOWAY, Braaaah!
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You do have what it takes not to be nice. This is pretty good, "You're all small timers pt. II Version 3.0"?
Haha... yeah, I just have to have the right provocation. I can't just summon it up at will. Anyway, I think the problem with misogyny here sometimes is just lack of exposure; we need more female members! Aside from a few... Lady Canucker (who mostly stays in DT) and philosophe... there aren't too many fightin' the good fight.
post #15 of 94
I think it would take more that a little e-exposure to womenz to change some of this, although I suppose a few more hanging around it might make people watch their virtual mouths a little better. Also you can have a congenial blokey atmosphere, with of colour jokes and all without it descending into misogyny. I don't get all that bro's before ho's crap, I have always had ho's who were bro's, so to speak. I think its all just silly posing, I don't think many people actually think like that irl. Isn't not liking women, you know, like, a bit gay?
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