Juicing, have you tried it (roids version) - Page 2

juiced from 21 to 31. usually 4 cycles a year of 8 weeks. have tried: deca dbol hgh anadrol eq tren sustenon cypionate propionate primo deca and dbol with some sust thrown in is my favorite. went from 207 to 248 first cycle and kept 15 lbs last cycle was tren, deca dbol and went from 252 to 279, kept maybe 15 again.

I'm not going to sit here and swap anecdotes (even though I have plenty). I've studied the actual science at the graduate level, and that's enough for me to understand when someone is clueless. You compared protein to androgens, and to me that shows you have no idea wtf you're talking about. The fact that your friends are SF soldiers means nothing to me, I've worked with a number of those guys and they never struck me as intellectual superstars and they are obviously not risk averse. You think those guys are going to go around bragging when they develop side effects? No.

wtf is SF soldier?

Special Forces, I'm assuming.

^ that seems logical, thanks

What's the educational requirements for an SF soldier? A 65 on the ASVAB and scoring a 0+ on Arabic at DLI? This qualifies someone as having perhaps good common sense, and represents zero science knowledge. If you want some anecdotes, in my previous career (remote land surveyor in Alaska) I worked with a few former Navy SEALs and RECON marines. They were chain smokers and borderline alcoholics. They were also very skinny and could hike endlessly in the woods. They were certainly not meatheads. I would have zero faith in their ability to know WTF they were doing if they did juice. I'm sure the SF guys these days are smart, but they don't have any formal education in physiology, except perhaps the medics.

If you must know, I'm actually attending a DDS program now. Since most are unfamiliar with what this entails, our didactic curriculum is nearly identical to the MDs. Therefore I've taken most the same courses in biochemistry, physiology, endocrinology, embryology, etc. I don't profess to be any sort of scientist, but I've learned enough here to understand that fucking with the endocrine system is asking for trouble. I also believe most people that juice are too stupid to understand WTF they are doing and PCT properly and all that, therefore you won't find me supporting it. Hell, I have the formal education, and I would not feel comfortable with it, that's my point.

Juice away though, I don't really care, just not for me. I'm able to gain all I desire naturally.

I think body-fuckery is for idiots, but I think steroids should be legal and regulated along with heroin, methamphetamine and doctor assisted suicide. I'm kind of a libertarian at heart, I suppose. And, no, I'm not comparing steroids to heroin- I'm just saying people should be able to do what they want, even if it kills them.

+1. I don't give a rat's ass about pro athletes taking steroids, but I do understand the point about how it puts dangerous pressure on non-juicing athletes to get on the juice as well.